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McCain: I was pro-environment before Clinton, Obama
ap on LA Daily News ^ | 5/13/08 | Glen Johnson - ap

Posted on 05/14/2008 6:14:55 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: Norman Bates

You sound like someone else who used to toot the Rino horn here.

any way you cut it, we all lose no matter who wins.. crossover voters from the dems made sure of that.

you may not like hearing it but you along with a lot of others will have to endure it... but go ahead, render support to a man who sought to rein in others freedom of sppech, openly insults those who disagree with his stance on immigration and torture policies, Yeah, tell me all about our options.

Have a good one.


61 posted on 05/14/2008 9:10:41 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: Tammy8
My brother-in-law told me years ago that congress invented problems to fix, then legislated fixes to the problems it invented which in turn created real problems that they couldn’t fix. I was still idealistic at the time and thought he was nuts...I owe him a big apology.

It sounds crazy at first, and horribly cynical, doesn't it? But then all that evidence keeps piling up...

62 posted on 05/14/2008 9:21:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Rohrabacher was just on CSPAN a little while ago (on the House Floor) making a long speech about this Global Warming nonsense. He made a lot of good points (not much new, but one more person exposing the alarmists can’t hurt).

Hopefully, the lack of warming that we are seeing will see this scam unravel before too much damage has been done. Congress has already spent billions to pay for studies selling it. Despite all that propaganda, it seems more and more people are waking up. One can only hope that the people will tell these scamsters to get a one way ticket to Mars.


63 posted on 05/14/2008 9:33:55 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Cinnamon Girl; NoobRep
While you're on Cinnamon Girl's thread don't miss this post. It's a classic! Bwaaaaaaaaaa
64 posted on 05/14/2008 9:35:20 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: Norman Bates
I have no problem with setting reasonable goals to reduce emissions, especially when it is over a period of 40+ years.

So, you wouldn't have a problem setting a "reasonable" limit on other things, as well--like air perhaps?
Why should we set limits on CO2 when evidence does not support that it is damaging?

Afterall conservation is a root of conservatism.

What exactly are you suggesting gets "conserved" with the proposed global warming legislation and treaty?

65 posted on 05/14/2008 9:37:03 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Norman Bates
Fine. Perhaps we should try the stick our finger in the ears approach and try telling 70% of Americans they are wrong.

Man--what happened to the fearless truth-tellers in this country! All I see is a bunch of white-flag surrenders, willing to settle for 'just a little bit better' than pure socialism. If you'd spend less time trying to sell conservatives on accepting this nonsense and more time broadcasting that Al Gore's ice-sheets are made of styrofoam, maybe we'd have a chance at exposing this hoax. In spite of the white-flag syndrome, it seems most people ARE getting it!

Americans Cool to Global Warming Action, New Poll Finds
March 20, 2008

Nearly Half Wouldn't Be Willing to Pay Even a Penny More for Gasoline; Opposition to Taxes Especially Strong Among Minorities

Washington, D.C.: Forty-eight percent of Americans are unwilling to spend even a penny more in gasoline taxes to help reduce U.S. greenhouse gas emissions, according to a new nationwide survey released today by the National Center for Public Policy Research.

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I have no problem with setting reasonable emission decreases especially if it is done over 40+ years - if that’s what it takes to take the issue off the table. Losing to Obama is not an option.

So, it doesn't matter to you if we ruin the U.S. economy for years to come--causing TRILLIONS in damage, subjects us to international laws, and restricts our freedoms, as long as John McCain becomes Presdient?

Your idea of "winning" sucks!

66 posted on 05/14/2008 9:44:51 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Norman Bates
I do agree that the GOP and conservatives need to improve their image as conservationists and I don’t have a problem doing that.

Conservatives ARE conservationists. What they are not is Marxists who want to take private property out of the hands of citizens. What they are not is internationalists are happy having the UN set laws we have to abide to or subject us to taxation and regulation. What they are not is blind to the socialist objective of using global "climate change" to effect the largest wealth redistribution scheme in all of modern history. I'm sorry--but you are looking like a "useful idiot" on this subject, and I don't mean "idiot" by Webster's definition.

67 posted on 05/14/2008 9:49:18 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge
NORTH BEND, Wash. - John McCain on Tuesday cast Democratic rivals Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton as latecomers to the environmental battle, saying he would be willing to debate the issue with either of them in the general election to underscore his experience with the issue.

:::bangs head against keyboard:::

How bad do things have to be for the GOP to be trying hard to out-liberal the two most liberal candidates to run for office in decades?

68 posted on 05/14/2008 10:32:40 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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