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I agree although I would call it Socialist. At least fascism instills some form of discipline.

Look at East L.A. or Chicago’s west and south side and you’ll see the same quality of parenting and government assistance - abysmal! The Chavs of Britain have about the same level of maturity as the Hip Hop gangbangers in the US.

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“I agree although I would call it Socialist. At least fascism instills some form of discipline.”
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Exactly! Ever since FDR's New Deal American citizens have willingly become increasingly dependent upon government for the responsibility of their daily lives. The pioneers of independent spirit who built this country would be mortified. I would venture to say that 75% of the population would accept a dictatorship as long as they were as comfortable as they wanted to be and had 24-7 access to reality TV. Where are the fearless adventurers who loaded their wagons and faced unknown territory to build a life for themselves? Where are the mountaineers who chucked “civilization” to make their own life in their own way in the place of their choosing? The most recent example we have is the fictional character in the movie Jeremiah Johnson. I fear the spirit that made the United States the great nation it is today is dead and gone; which is a stone cold pity. I have been a staunch Republican for about 20 years but find myself drifting more toward the Libertarians simply because they seem to respect the spirit and rights of individuality and the original Constitution as drafted by our founders; the system within which has produced, in less than 300 years mind you, the wealthiest, strongest, most powerful country in existence. How many nations thousands of years old can make that claim?