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California high court set to rule on gay marriage (plans to issue decision Thursday, May 15th)
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 5/14/08 | AP

Posted on 05/14/2008 12:23:13 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

The California Supreme Court says it plans to issue its long-awaited decision on whether to legalize same-sex marriage on Thursday.

The high court announced the pending opinion on its Web site Wednesday morning. Justices heard oral arguments in a series of cases brought by gay and lesbian couples, the city of San Francisco and two gay rights advocacy groups in early March.

The court has been asked to decide whether the state's one man-one woman marriage laws violate the civil rights of same-sex couples.

If it rules in favor of the plaintiffs, California could become the second state after Massachusetts where gays and lesbians can legally wed.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: caglbt; california; gaymarriage; glbt; homosexualagenda; logcabin; samesexmarriage
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To: goldstategop; ElkGroveDan; calcowgirl; doug from upland; SierraWasp; wagglebee

If the state Supreme’s really do this (and I’m not certain that they will), look for some of them to be voted out and others to be recalled. Former and current Californians remember what happened to “Rosie & The Supremes,” the out-of-control leftist judges that Jerry Brown appointed, in 1986.


21 posted on 05/14/2008 2:04:31 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Karl Marx supported free trade. Does that make him a free market conservative?)
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To: Enchante

True enough. If people and/or the legislatures in various states vote for same sex marriage, it’s far different than having it imposed by a court.

Marriage laws as they stand are not discriminatory. Any eligible man can marry any eligible woman. Everyone is limited to one partner. Certain close relatives are off limits in marriage. Everyone is treated equally under the current marriage laws. So the discrimination argument is clearly lacking. Of course I’m not a judge. The judges might make up the law as they go along.


22 posted on 05/14/2008 2:06:58 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Right Cal Gal

Well, it was written in a SF newspaper, so it may have some bias or hopeful thinking. I don’t know enough about any of them to have formed an independent view. But it was the most detailed account I could find so thought I would post it as a refresher on the issues and the players.

As to the issue, Prop 22 defined marriage as it is included in the Code. We should have made it a Constitutional Amendment at the time and we wouldn’t be giving the lefties a chance to undo it.


23 posted on 05/14/2008 2:07:47 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge
So the judges get to make the laws, and at the same time, they get to be the judge over these same laws? Why do we need a legislature?

Next they will use their authority to enforce the laws, so why do we need a governor?

24 posted on 05/14/2008 2:08:06 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: the lastbestlady
My nephew will be thrilled. I’m sure they’ll decide to legalize it.

Why are you sure? Do you know anything about these justices?

25 posted on 05/14/2008 2:09:02 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The road to hell is paved with the stones of pragmatism.)
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To: NormsRevenge
We are talking the Gub here, yaknow, who would abide the court’s decision over and above the poeple’s votes in the past.

Yup. "Let the judges, decide" was a direct quote, IIRC.

26 posted on 05/14/2008 2:09:41 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: massgopguy

I don’t doubt it.


27 posted on 05/14/2008 2:22:10 PM PDT by the lastbestlady (I now believe that we have two lives; the life we learn with and the life we live with after that.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Sorry, I guess I wasn’t giving Cali the benefit of the doubt.


28 posted on 05/14/2008 2:23:58 PM PDT by the lastbestlady (I now believe that we have two lives; the life we learn with and the life we live with after that.)
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To: calcowgirl

If the Supreme Court declares Gay Marriage legal, look for a constitutional amendment referendum on the ballot in November to nullify the decision.


29 posted on 05/14/2008 2:41:01 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: WayneS
What do they mean IF? It’s California, isn’t it?

That's an idiotic statement. What do you know about these particular justices?

30 posted on 05/14/2008 2:43:24 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The road to hell is paved with the stones of pragmatism.)
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To: Right Cal Gal
If the Supreme Court declares Gay Marriage legal, look for a constitutional amendment referendum on the ballot in November to nullify the decision.

Nice prediction. It already qualified and it will be on the ballot regardless.

31 posted on 05/14/2008 2:46:14 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The road to hell is paved with the stones of pragmatism.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

I should have known. Of all the dumb-a** petitions being shoved in my face at Wal-Mart, THIS one they didn’t give me!


32 posted on 05/14/2008 2:48:11 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: NormsRevenge

My money is on the California Supreme Court forcing the state to allow gay marriage. Yes, the court is conservative by California standards, but reports of oral argument make me very pessimistic.


33 posted on 05/14/2008 3:00:15 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: NormsRevenge

BOHICA!


34 posted on 05/14/2008 3:01:01 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: Dilbert San Diego
"The judges might make up the law as they go along."

Well they sure did that in Mass. where the SJC "discovered" that the Constitution written by John Adams more than 2 centuries ago had somehow been hiding a sacred right to gay marriage for all these years.
35 posted on 05/14/2008 3:45:19 PM PDT by Enchante (Obama: My 1930s Foreign Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Social Policy!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Also keep in mind that just because we are talking about a Blue State, doesn’t mean that its high court will hand down a Liberal decision. In New York, its high court ruled 4-3 that only the State Legislature could legalize gay marriage; and that’s a State that doesn’t ban gay marriage in its State Constitution or statutorily.


36 posted on 05/14/2008 6:05:39 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Thank you very much for your VERY belated input.

I have already been corrected by, and had a very nice exchange with, another “poster” who is MUCH more polite and pleasant than you.

I’m sorry if your Left Coast sensibilities were offended by me sarcastic comments. Perhaps you should seek counseling.


37 posted on 05/15/2008 4:49:03 AM PDT by WayneS (It's YOUR choice, America: Left, Lefter or Leftest)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Thank you. I have also heard from others who agree with you. I hope you are all correct.

If the CA Supreme Court DOES rule against Gay marriage once, can’t they do it again if the DEM legislature passes another law?


38 posted on 05/15/2008 4:52:29 AM PDT by WayneS (It's YOUR choice, America: Left, Lefter or Leftest)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Grampa Dave

G.D.!!! Have you been watching THIS???


39 posted on 05/15/2008 8:41:03 AM PDT by SierraWasp (Electing Juan McGore President, or any Dem, would be Super Power economic suicide!!! Vote Nader...)
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To: SierraWasp

I haven’t paid much attention to it.

More than likely the somewhat conservative California Supremes will say no.

If they say yes, then it will go to our somewhat conservative ScotUS.


40 posted on 05/15/2008 8:55:48 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein Obama"Hama's" Pastor, Jeremiah Wright: "God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11")
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