Posted on 05/13/2008 7:20:54 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
EVILution Ping
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You'll see the biological sciences faculty at the top 100 universities forming a posse to take these guys out and burn them at the stake.
Should be quite a show.
(This meeting also means that even though "evolution" is supposed to be foundational to an understanding of biology, all the teachers of all the biological sciences are going to have to abandon everything they knew and go back to school to learn the new stuff)
(Guess the "evolution" that was being taught wasn't all that foundational).
Conferences like this happen all the time. Often little comes of them.
You can believe in evolution or in modern mathematics and probability theory one or the other but not both: the two are mutually exclusive.
That would only be correct if the mathematicians are correctly modeling biological systems. What are the odds of that?
Geee, I wish I had the patience and time toread it all.
Two other mutually exclusive subjects are Darwinism and History. The more one studies history from 1859-onward, the more repulsive Darwinism and Darwinians become. Repulsive both to scientific sensibility and moral sensibility. One must reject history as bunk in order to maintain the happy belief that Darwinism was a product of competent scientific minds.
How come in the public eye, some scientists say that
evolution explains everything, but in private they
say there is more to life than just “evolution?”
Sounds to me it’s like they’re indoctrinating students,
and not revealing all the trade secrets.
I wonder what would happen if someone sued a board of
edukation(sic) to include the Altenberg 16 conclusions...
Maybe some scientists need to read Kuhns book about the
structure of scientific revolutions. It might open
their eyes to their philosophical/epistomological biases.
Huh? You mean evolution may not be random? What is
random anyway?
OH,OH, better consult a mathematician or a philosopher,
but I can’t trust them, they are not SCIENTISTS(and can’t
get government grants).
Sounds to me it’s like they’re indoctrinating students, and not revealing all the trade secrets. I wonder what would happen if someone sued a board of edukation(sic) to include the Altenberg 16 conclusions...
Maybe some scientists need to read Kuhns book about the structure of scientific revolutions. It might open their eyes to their philosophical/epistomological biases.
Let's see if there are any Altenberg 16 conclusions yet, and whether they are of any value before we force them on school boards.
As for Kuhn, that was a significant part of one of my theory classes in grad school. Scientists are generally aware of Kuhn, but the ones who cite the book the most are those trying -- and failing -- to get their personal kookery considered as science.
If you want a response you will have to make an actual point.
If you're interested in form, try McCosh's Forms and Special Ends in Creation, written before Origin of Species. You may be able to glean something from Julian Huxley's Problems in Relative Growth, despite the fact that Julian Huxley is a mendacious liar. Better is D'Arcy Thompson's Growth and Form, especially the part about projective cross-ratio. But it's interesting to compare that later stuff to McCosh.
Interesting folks, interesting article.
Thanks for the post.
I was actually heartened by reading some of the writings. Among some there’s growth from the reductionism of pure darwinism and a realization that science cannot see “value”.
If this overdue move away from scientism should ever reach the popular culture...
Would “Woodstock” chuck Chuck’s stock? An evolving question.
INTREP - Get the popcorn!
If by "modern mathematics and probability theory" you mean David Berlinski's preposterous arguments, I find the choice easy to make.
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