NRO Editorial: Big Mistake (McCain)

National Review ^ | May 13, 2008 | The Editors

[LS]

A true conservative who would run as a third party would do well (perhaps 10% of the vote, given that RuePaul is going to take 5% of the ultra-free-market/anti-war voters).

Unfortunately, I don't see one single conservative really out there who could stage a national run, even as a 3d party candidate. The three most conservative guys in the primaries, Hunter, Thompson, and Brownback, could barely get 10% if they ran together.

[LS]

I understand the argument. But McCain isn't going to have a "GOP" staff. Look who is heading his campaign in Ohio: Mike DeWine. Is this eco-weenie the kind of guy you want heading up the EPA or Dept. of Energy??? Or Christie Todd Whitman? These are the kind of GOP people we absolutely don't need in office.

I'm more convinced by the day that we are better off to let the Dems have it and ride the country into the toilet so we can get a mandate to build it up. We have two examples of it taking a pretty bleak circumstance for people to get some sense: Reagan in 1980 and Thatcher in 1979.

[mthom]

I love “climate change”. Its the perfect word combo to use. It could mean literally anything. Im waiting for them to resort to “seasonal climate change”.

[Auntie Toots]

You posted,”McCain is working hard at throwing the election to whichever official Dem makes it to the finish line.”

I am so mad at McCain.....AND EVEN MORE after seeing him this evening on Fox saying he knows he is going to make people in his own party mad with his views on climate change......and he took great pleasure in saying it....how did we ever get such a dunce for our candidate?

I never thought I would go against the Republican candidate in a presidential election but I’m sorry, I don’t think I can hold my nose tight enough to vote for McCain. I will not give him a dime.

I don’t particularly like Bob Barr, but I may vote for him anyway....last night on Glenn Beck’s program he sounded more conservative than mccain ever has. McNasty needs a back lash.

[mek1959]

I’m beginning to think your view makes sense, though I’m still concerned about the judges which as you know are lifetime appointments.

What a mess.

[Czar]

"If this AGW stuff gets passed, it will damage the U.S. more than anything in Iraq could ever do."

Absolutely. Yet--on this and orther threads--we have various posters willing to believe that McCain can be trusted on, e.g., judges and Iraq, when they're up to their collective asses in evidence that McCain has never met a promise or commitment he couldn't rise above in the interest of political expediency.

He simply cannot be trusted. On anything.

[Entrepreneur]

The only possible reasons to vote for McCain are the judiciary and the military...other than that, he’s an absolute waste. Bush is a RINO temporarily hidden by a Texas drawl. McCain is a RINO with no disguise.

I'm not sure about the judiciary. Remember, this was the guy who organized the Gang of 14.

And the military? Maybe. He wants to shut down Gitmo over political correctness. Who knows what he'll do when he no longer has to pander.

McCain has shifted to the right in his statements on taxes, the judiciary, and a few other areas because he needs the GOP base to have a chance. To me, this suggests he wasn't taking principled positions, but politically expedient ones. He won't stand by them. The enviromarxist speech confirms it.

The greatest threat to our liberty and prosperity today does not come from Islamic fascism, but from enviromarxism and we've got three enviromarxists left in the race.

I voted for Reagan with pride and optimism.

I voted for GHW Bush with cautious optimism the first time, hoping he learned something from eight years at Reagan's side (he didn't). After all, he was far better than Dukakis.

Yet, when given a choice between GHW Bush and Clinton, I held my nose and voted for GHW Bush. Afterwards I swore I'd never vote when confronted by the evil of two lessers again.

Yet, when given a choice between Dole and Clinton, I held my nose and voted for Dole. Afterwards I swore I'd never vote when confronted by the evil of two lessers again.

Yet, when given a choice between GW Bush and Gore, I held my nose and voted for GW Bush. Afterwards I swore I'd never vote when confronted by the evil of two lessers again.

Yet, when given a choice between GW Bush and Kerry, I held my nose and voted for GW Bush. Afterwards swore I'd never vote when confronted by the evil of two lessers again.

Given the choice between McCain and Obama or Clinton, I'm not sure there's enough contrast to get me to hold my nose.

What's wrong with America when this is the best we can do?

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Yet--on this and orther threads--we have various posters willing to believe that McCain can be trusted on, e.g., judges and Iraq, when they're up to their collective asses in evidence that McCain has never met a promise or commitment he couldn't rise above in the interest of political expediency.

They're the sorts who -- humiliatingly enough -- are ruled entirely (and effectively) by fear. Some paid Team Juan shill squeaks "OBAMA!OBAMA!OBAMAOBAMAOBAMA!!!" at precisely the right moment... and, on cue, they all promptly pee their panties, en masse.

Sad, but true.

[Signalman]

I heard Michael Savage ask today if there was any way we could drop the 3 current candidates and get new ones.

[trenton1776]

One thing I admire about the paulistas is that they want to do something about McQueeg. Is it possible to pressure delegates to the convention to withhold their vote on this total Zero and throw open the process?

If so, how about a list of delegates and their info.

[SierraWasp]

"And you vote in the only possible way to deny Obama power."

Bull! I wanna vote FOR someone!! I'll just vote FOR Ralph Nader who makes no pretense to trying to think like me!!!

Then we'll pass a law that the Green Party is only valid in Greenland!!! (It got that name from the last GW)

[rocksblues]

What follows is my response to John McCain's recent speech about cap and trade. Sent to his website as a general question.

Dear John: I commend you for your service and resistance during capture. But due to your meeting with La Raza a known anti-American group and your acceptance of Global Warming Hysteria, I will stay home on election day and see if your disregard for the Conservative vote and the courting of the Democrat vote works for you. I have voted Republican since 1968. Curtis A. Rock

I suggest that more people go to his website and submit their thoughts on his campaign tack. Click on contact us!

[SierraWasp]

"McCain's recent speech about cap and trade"

Good idea, but din't you mean crap and trade?

[LostInBayport]

What's wrong with America when this is the best we can do?

I console myself by thinking that the three morons (McCain, Obama & Clinton) are not the best America can do, but the best two clueless, graft-encrusted and very similar political parties can do.

I think this disappointment crosses party lines. Only voters that are completely insane or willfully blind (hello Kos, DU, Code Pinko) have a candidate they are ecstatic over. Was that harsh?

[engrpat]

The only possible reasons to vote for McCain are the judiciary and the military

I don't think he can be trusted on the judiciary as he is more than willing to work with the democrats and will want their input.

[Czar]

"...and, on cue, they all promptly pee their panties, en masse."

What a picture that conjures up.

[dforest]

You just reminded me me there is NO reason to choose McCain. He will never get a conservative SCOTUS appointment past a Democrat Congress. That won’t upset him though, he will willingly oblige Fat Teddy.

As far as the WOT, if Mccain wins, the RAT congress will defund the war, and McCain will willingly oblige.

He crosses the aisle...to the dark side...because he is aligned with them.

[Owen]

>>
“And you vote in the only possible way to deny Obama power.”

Bull! I wanna vote FOR someone!! I’ll just vote FOR Ralph Nader who makes no pretense to trying to think like me!!!
>>

It’s not really supposed to be about what you “want”. It’s supposed to be a selfless act that denies power to the worst choice.

No one ever has been able to support all of a candidate’s positions. Generally not possible. There will always be some aspect of position that is not aligned.

So you pick the rightward most candidate who is viable. That’s not Obama.

[Nuc1]

I sure hope he is just trolling for dim votes.

[upchuck]

I'm more convinced by the day that we are better off to let the Dems have it and ride the country into the toilet so we can get a mandate to build it up.

This thought has been on my mind a lot lately. Give the Dems four years to really screw up the country, scare a bunch of people and then try and take the country back in 2012.

To a point that makes sense. Except for one thing: the SCOTUS. Chances are good the next POTUS will appoint two Supremes, maybe more. Life terms. It would be at least 10 years before this damage could be undone. hat worries me a lot.

Of course all of this is a moot point if the Second American Revolution starts before Nov 4th.