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McCain on the Issues - Economic Plan
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Posted on 05/13/2008 10:17:56 AM PDT by Bob J

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There is a strong anti-McCain movement on FR and while there is nothing wrong with that in general I feel that some of those involved have been in engaging in an effort of mischaracterization and misinformation on where McCain stands on the issues.

The anti-McCain crowd consistently state that there is no difference between McCain and Obama/Clinton, which is simply ridiculous. There are points where the difference is less stark than others but to make a sweeping claim such as that, IMO, demonstrates the hsyterical lengths some will go to try to get others to stay home or vote third party on election day.

Now McCain wasn't my #1 candidate as he wasn't for most FReepers, but he will be the GOP nominee and a realistic analysis of his positions free from rhetoric and hysteria is important to gaining a full understanding of what to expect from him if he were towin the election.

In the interests of having a rational discussion and attempting to soberly define where McCains stands on the issues and whether or not there is a "difference" between him and his opponents, I will post one new McCain issue standpoint a day.

To those "one issue" voters, please don't muck up these threads by bringing up the other issues not being discussed this day, you're chance will come.

1 posted on 05/13/2008 10:17:56 AM PDT by Bob J
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2 posted on 05/13/2008 10:21:28 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: Man50D

I just about give up on this guy. I’m not even sure I can hold my nose and vote for him after his ridicules global warming speech yesterday.

I dunno.....


4 posted on 05/13/2008 10:24:22 AM PDT by mek1959
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To: Bob J

Juan McLame has a few good points in this plan such as his adoption of Fred Thompson’s tax plan. However, much of this plan simply reenforces McCain’s own admission that he really doesn’t understand the economy.


5 posted on 05/13/2008 10:25:00 AM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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Waiting for the GOP to get a testicles & spine implant and support elimination of the IRS & replace the federal income tax(which only half of Americans pay) with a national sale tax.

I’m not holding my breath...


6 posted on 05/13/2008 10:25:42 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Man50D
John McCain Calls For The Immediate Formation Of A Justice Department Mortgage Abuse Task Force.

Ahhhhhhh. More sweet, sweet government.

I can feel all that bothersome personal responsibility just slipping away, even as we speak.

7 posted on 05/13/2008 10:26:40 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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“”5. McCain joined Chuck Schumer to sponsor one bill allowing the re-importation of prescription drugs and another permitting wider sale of generic alternatives. These measures were strongly contested by the health care industry, Bush and the GOP leadership.

6. McCain sponsored with John Kerry a bill raising automobile fuel-efficiency standards””

Are you trying to get us to like McCain?


8 posted on 05/13/2008 10:28:00 AM PDT by Shermy (Nightmares From My Pastor, A Story of Race and Insanity)
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"John McCain Will Help Americans Hurting From High Gasoline And Food Costs. Americans need relief right now from high gas prices"

No mention of drilling in ALaska and other oil-rich locations in our own country. I guess McCain would rather keep funding our enemies and allow americans to suffer astronomical gas prices. A temporary suspension of the gas tax is not going to be sufficient.

9 posted on 05/13/2008 10:29:58 AM PDT by BloodOrFreedom
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To: mek1959

Call the RNC in DC and any other lame brain that is in the leadership of the GOP to voice your outrage and disgust. I also advocate contacting any delegates to the convention to tell them to dump McCain like tea in Boston Harbor. Other than that, start praying big time for all of us are in deep doo doo along with our children and grandchildren’s future. We’re watching history repeating itself and it ain’t pretty!


10 posted on 05/13/2008 10:30:11 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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“John McCain Believes We Should Institute A Summer Gas Tax Holiday. Hard-working American families are suffering from higher gasoline prices. John McCain calls on Congress to suspend the 18.4 cent federal gas tax and 24.4 cent diesel tax from Memorial Day to Labor Day. John McCain Will Stop Filling The Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) To Reduce Demand. International demand for oil is bolstered by federal purchases for the SPR. There is no reason to fill it when oil is so expensive, the overall SPR is of adequate size, and when it places further upward pressure on prices.”

You idiot!! There is life after labor day and then what? Stop filling the SPR? Who wrote this? Dingy Harry?


11 posted on 05/13/2008 10:30:47 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Ronald Reagan Fought Regulation, John McCain Brought Regulation...)
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To: NavVet
Juan McLame has a few good points in this plan such as his adoption of Fred Thompson’s tax plan.

Tinkering with an income tax code that is beyond repair will not solve the problem. It's time for a fundamental change by replacing the income tax with a national sales tax as set forth in the The Fair Tax Act of 2007.
12 posted on 05/13/2008 10:31:07 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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I am very concerned about the plight of the polar bears. I was hoping we could have a presidential candidate who would promise to regulate the entire spectrum of economic activity through a cap and trade plan that would require American businesses to purchase very expensive special carbon permits from the government in order to stay in busness. Then we could use the money from these permits to help the plight of the polar bears and stuff like, you know, environmental stuff.

Are you going to post Senator’s McCain’s position on the plight of the polar bears and stuff?


13 posted on 05/13/2008 10:31:38 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: San Jacinto

Heh. ;)


14 posted on 05/13/2008 10:32:50 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: Bob J

Thanks, I think some balance is necessary as well. There are many Freepers so caught up in their hate for McCain (mostly because their guy lost the primaries) that they can’t see the “forest for the trees”. “Flamming” is not rational discussion....it’s usually just baseless one-liners repeating some isolated comment or vote...usually taken out of context.

At least McCain HAS a plan...don’t see any other than Socialism and higher taxation coming from the Dem side.

Thanks for the info and keep it up!


15 posted on 05/13/2008 10:36:57 AM PDT by HappyinAZ
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Well here's two issues then.

"Helping Americans Confront Higher Living Costs: John McCain Will Help Americans Hurting From High Gasoline And Food Costs. Americans need relief right now from high gas prices. John McCain will act immediately to reduce the pain of high gas prices. John McCain Believes We Should Institute A Summer Gas Tax Holiday. Hard-working American families are suffering from higher gasoline prices. John McCain calls on Congress to suspend the 18.4 cent federal gas tax and 24.4 cent diesel tax from Memorial Day to Labor Day. John McCain Will Stop Filling The Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) To Reduce Demand. International demand for oil is bolstered by federal purchases for the SPR. There is no reason to fill it when oil is so expensive, the overall SPR is of adequate size, and when it places further upward pressure on prices. John McCain Will End Policies That Contribute To Higher Transportation And Food Costs. Ethanol subsidies, tariff barriers and sugar quotas drive up food prices and hurt Americans. However, we cannot take the wrong direction and cut off trade for American goods."

This all sounds good. But we're going to get cap and trade to help out against "Global warming" - and cap and trade is going to add an absolutely MIND-BOGGLING amount to the energy bill of each American, counting gasoline (or diesel) and all the monthly utility bills we pay. The cost of transporting ANYTHING in this country will be markedly increased. If John thinks this helps Americans, he's an economic idiot.

Cap and trade will take much, MUCH more out of American's pockets than the savings from a few weeks of rescinding the tax on gasoline. And it's completely anti-growth, and once we get a [new] government agency overseeing the program, we'll NEVER be rid of it.

Then there's this one:

"Cutting Taxes For The Middle Class: John McCain Will Cut Taxes For Middle Class Families. John McCain will permanently repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax(AMT) – a tax that will be paid nearly exclusively by 25 million middle class families. Repealing this onerous tax will save middle class families nearly $60 billion in a single year. Under McCain's plan, a middle class family with children set to pay the AMT will save an average of over $2,700 – a real tax cut for working families."

I'm asking 'cause I don't really know - but has John McCain ever introduced a bill in the House or Senate which eliminates for all time the AMT?

16 posted on 05/13/2008 10:42:44 AM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: HappyinAZ

“I’m John McCain and my economic plan starts with selling the Czar’s Fabrege Eggs for $3 a piece.”


17 posted on 05/13/2008 10:44:17 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Bob J
"To those "one issue" voters, please don't muck up these threads by bringing up the other issues not being discussed this day, you're chance will come."

Yeah, and if they don't comply, perhaps McCain/Feingold II will remedy that too.

18 posted on 05/13/2008 10:47:36 AM PDT by lormand (Let's all be mavericks now)
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Under his HOME Plan, every deserving American family or homeowner will be afforded the opportunity to trade a burdensome mortgage for a manageable loan that reflects their home's market value.

Eligibility: Holders of a non-conventional mortgage taken after 2005 who live in their home (primary residence only); can prove creditworthiness at the time of the original loan; are either delinquent, in arrears on payments, facing a reset or otherwise demonstrate that they will be unable to continue to meet their mortgage obligations; and can meet the terms of a new 30 year fixed-rate mortgage on the existing home.

Pie in the sky on the taxpayer's dime.

19 posted on 05/13/2008 10:49:24 AM PDT by trane250
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To: NavVet

Agreed that McCain needs to get some high caliber economic advisors for his campaign...and fast.


20 posted on 05/13/2008 10:49:37 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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