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McCain Pushes 'Cap-And-Trade' Plan to Fight Global Warming
Business and Media ^ | 3-29-08 | Dan Gainor

Posted on 05/12/2008 10:25:21 PM PDT by parousia

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To: TheWasteLand

He is a sell out. Why people on Free Republic still support him is beyond me?


41 posted on 05/13/2008 6:00:38 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: parousia

The “Cap and Trade” on freedom is what will give a diminished world to our children.


42 posted on 05/13/2008 6:06:26 AM PDT by kenth (Just think, .000001783% of the population is screwing it all up for the rest of us.)
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To: parousia

My letter to the GOP:

Dear Mr. Duncan,

I didn’t think there was much more the GOP and John McCain could do to alienate their conservative base (amnesty, campaign finance, out of control spending, etc.). Clearly, I was wrong. With more and more evidence and public opinion contradicting our ability to warm or cool the planet, you folks have gone off the deep end for one thing; Politics. This used to be the party of Goldwater and Reagan. If we could only tap the energy being created by those two spinning in their collective graves, we’d solve our energy problems. Oh wait, I have an idea. Why doesn’t the GOP get in the trenches and start fighting for; 1) drilling in Anwar, 2) drilling in the Dakota’s, 3) allowing refinery to be built in the USA (remember us) which hasn’t been done in over 40 years, 4) undoing a Clinton executive order that bars Utah from mining the largest clean burning coal deposits in the world ( can you say Riady, sure you can).

I can trust a liberal, because I know where he’s coming from. I can’t trust the GOP, because the RINO’S are running the party and I don’t know what they stand for anymore.

Sincerely and with great sadness and disappointment,

John Haines
Lake Orion, MI
Former Republican and current Independent

Ps. No more $


43 posted on 05/13/2008 6:09:53 AM PDT by TheRake (Still Taxed to death in Michigan....it's getting worse.....and worse)
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To: Huck

The stupid party has earned elite status by their virtues. They do what they are best of, being morons.


44 posted on 05/13/2008 6:20:59 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: Sprite518
He is a sell out. Why people on Free Republic still support him is beyond me?

Really? It's so obvious and simple. I am going to vote for McCain no matter how much clap trap he adds on the pile. Why? Because no matter how hard he tries, he still won't be as bad as Obama. Why people expect anything more than what we get from politicians is beyond me.

45 posted on 05/13/2008 6:24:22 AM PDT by Huck ("Real" conservatives support OBAMA in 08 (that's how you know Im not a real conservative))
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To: boomop1
The stupid party has earned elite status by their virtues. They do what they are best of, being morons.

They're politicians. Not exactly the cream of the crop.

46 posted on 05/13/2008 6:25:44 AM PDT by Huck ("Real" conservatives support OBAMA in 08 (that's how you know Im not a real conservative))
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To: Huck

So you rather our country die a slow death than a quick?

This is why I choose neither. There is not one conservative or even an independent running for President. I am sorry, but McCain will NEVER get my vote. We have a choice between a liberal, a Socialist and a communist.

Sorry I cannot vote for any of them.


47 posted on 05/13/2008 6:28:59 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Huck
BTW, the Republicans tried this strategy in 2006. You know vote for our guy because he is the less of the two evils. Guess what??? They got their butts handed to them. Its going to happen again unless they wake up and smell the coffee. Vote for my guy because he is the lesser of two evils is a piss poor strategy at best. However, since they seemed to not learn a dam thing in 2006 it will happen again in 2008.
48 posted on 05/13/2008 6:32:31 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518
So you rather our country die a slow death than a quick?

Such hysterics. America is not going to die. If Carter couldn't kill us, if LBJ couldn't kill us...

And come to think of it, look at our history. Why suddenly now do you think it's time to stop voting and just sit waiting to die? Obama is somehow worse than Woodrow Wilson? Than FDR? Than LBJ?

We've survived the left/right battles for quite some time now. Not without scars, but we're still here. You can surrender if you want, but not me.

This is why I choose neither.

It's a meaningless choice. No matter what choice YOU make, America WILL make a choice. So your choice not to choose is merely self-serving avoidance. It's a tough decision. You've never had to make tough choices? You always have a highly desirable option in life? Not me.

I remember the time I got a fish hook lodged under my finger nail, barb and all. I could go to the emergency room, or I could just give it a yank and hope for the best. Neither choice was a desirable one, but I had to decide. So I gave it a hard yank, and wouldn't you know, it was like a miracle. Thing came right out. Sometimes we're unexpectedly rewarded for making the tough choice. Maybe this is one of those times.

There is not one conservative or even an independent running for President.

I would say McCain is an independent. They tend to be liberal on quite a few things. That's partly how they get the tag. But they tend to be conservative on some things too, which is also how they get the tag.

I am sorry, but McCain will NEVER get my vote. We have a choice between a liberal, a Socialist and a communist.

In my view, you should be sorry. You're copping out.

Sorry I cannot vote for any of them.

Like I said, you should be sorry. There will likely be 100 million Americans who WILL vote. The election will have an outcome. It's our duty to make the best choice.

I can justify voting for McCain on one issue above all, the same reason I could justify voting for GWB, despite his incompetence. The troops on the ground at minimum deserve a commander in chief who is unambiguously on our side. Once again, we have a clear distinction on that score. There are other reasons, but that one is enough for me. If the troops have the balls to make the tough decision to risk their one and only precious life on earth to protect the USA--conservatives and libs--then I should have the stones to make a somewhat disagreeable choice on their behalf.

49 posted on 05/13/2008 6:41:27 AM PDT by Huck ("Real" conservatives support OBAMA in 08 (that's how you know Im not a real conservative))
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To: Sprite518
Vote for my guy because he is the lesser of two evils is a piss poor strategy at best.

This is the comment that really amazes and perplexes me. As if a vote for GWB wasn't a vote for the lesser of two evils? It damn sure was. And it was the correct vote. And it was a winning vote, as well. I really can't relate to people who behave as if this is the first time George Washington wasn't on the GOP ticket.

50 posted on 05/13/2008 7:05:10 AM PDT by Huck ("Real" conservatives support OBAMA in 08 (that's how you know Im not a real conservative))
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To: parousia
We are S-C-R-E-W-E-D people.

How do you like your liberal democrat, medium liberal or flaming hot liberal?

51 posted on 05/13/2008 7:13:50 AM PDT by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: Huck

I regret voting for GWB in 2004.


52 posted on 05/13/2008 9:10:57 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Huck
If Carter could not kill us then neither will Obama. You just made the point. Besides we do not directly vote for the President.

McCain is by no means an independent. He is clearly a Liberal. How you can say he is an independent? Let me list it for you.

McCain Stands for the following

1) Pro Amnesty
2) Pro Global Warming
3) Anti Bush Tax Cut
4) Wants Gitmo Closed
5) Panders with the racist Hispanic KKK group La Raza
6) Attacks fellow Republicans

Need I say more? You call that Independent?

The Republican party will be sorry because a lot of Conservatives that think just like me. The warning message in 2006 was not enough, So now they will lose the White House along with congress. And when this happens all the heads of the Republican party need to be fired, and replaced with real conservatives. If this does not happen, then the Republican party will slowly vanish.

53 posted on 05/13/2008 9:28:20 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: TheRake

Excellent response.


54 posted on 05/13/2008 9:40:54 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: TheRake
From a fellow former Republican and current Independent, let me say that that is a fine letter.

You may find this interesting. And this.

55 posted on 05/13/2008 9:45:57 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Politics isn't a spectator sport. It's the fight for our survival. "A republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Sprite518
There is not one conservative or even an independent running for President.

Actually, we're working to get Alan Keyes on the ballot as an independent. There are people working now in most states to get it done. Should be an active effort in every state within the week.

56 posted on 05/13/2008 9:48:48 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Politics isn't a spectator sport. It's the fight for our survival. "A republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: EternalVigilance

Well that is good, but I don’t think Alan Keys will be able to get elected.


57 posted on 05/13/2008 9:51:46 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: parousia

MCCAIN IS LOOKING TO CONSOLODATE HIS PERSONAL POWER BASE.

McCain is just another beltway politician.

same as clinton
same as obama


58 posted on 05/13/2008 9:52:37 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: parousia; pandoraou812
Listening to McCain is like wearing beer goggles. Even Hillary starts looking good.

Aiyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee don't drink the KoolAid!

59 posted on 05/13/2008 11:42:50 AM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: TheRake

Wow! That is excellent. Clear, concise and to the point. Would you mind if I copied the text and put my name on it to send the GOP? I think it bears repeating just as it is.


60 posted on 05/13/2008 11:49:31 AM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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