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You refer to the party as if it has nothing to do with conservatives.

That is the point... the republican party of today has utterly abandoned its conservative ideals. Sure, it will always be pro-life and pro-God, but those issues are not the duty of goverance.

Energy policy? The republicans are weak. Border control? Weak. US sovereignty? Weak. Fiscal policy? Weak. Trade and industry? Weak. The republicans in the US House and Senate, and our president, have become big government cheerleaders who practically salivate every time they have a chance to pander to illegals, China, unions, liberals, or any other enemy of the United States and American citizens. The party has been in decline since the day that Bush took office, and has apparently decided that they would rather keep their jobs than to roll their sleeves up, get dirty, and obey and defend the Constitution and the principles that this nation was founded upon.

I know nothing about Bob Barr save his work on the Clinton impeachment proceedings and his stance on China. I do know that McInsane is going to be another Bush... and that winning the war in Iraq doesn't matter one damn bit if amnesty is passed, LOST is signed, or any other of the ten dozen anti-American things that globalist loony supports come to fruition.

You refer to the party as if it has nothing to do with conservatives. That is the point... the republican party of today has utterly abandoned its conservative ideals. Sure, it will always be pro-life and pro-God, but those issues are not the duty of goverance. Energy policy? The republicans are weak. Border control? Weak. US sovereignty? Weak. Fiscal policy? Weak. Trade and industry? Weak. The republicans in the US House and Senate, and our president, have become big government cheerleaders who practically salivate every time they have a chance to pander to illegals, China, unions, liberals, or any other enemy of the United States and American citizens. The party has been in decline since the day that Bush took office, and has apparently decided that they would rather keep their jobs than to roll their sleeves up, get dirty, and obey and defend the Constitution and the principles that this nation was founded upon. I know nothing about Bob Barr save his work on the Clinton impeachment proceedings and his stance on China. I do know that McInsane is going to be another Bush... and that winning the war in Iraq doesn't matter one damn bit if amnesty is passed, LOST is signed, or any other of the ten dozen anti-American things that globalist loony supports come to fruition.

The LP will help elect the SOCIALIST BARAK HUSSIEN OBAMA to the PRESIDENCY. Thank you, you so-called CONSERVATIVES, you make me sick.

That is not my point. My point is that conservates, as part of the Republican party, bear responsibility for the party moving away from the ideals you mentioned. You can’t say they left us since we are part of the process. We have enough whack jobs, claiming to be conservatives, who alientate people at every turn. I don’t want to get into an arguement on that subject (too long) but have been trying to point out that the ‘our way or the highway’ mentality is largely to blame for the party moving away. The pendulum will swing again.........my point being that we play a role and shoulder our share of the blame as we are part of the party. Many will focus on the fight within the party as you would do and then deal w the Dems in another cycle and others will focus on the Dems now. Either way we are part of parcel of the process and can’t say THEY did this and THEY did that.