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To: adcycn; All

I have just looked at the before and after picture of this school. The contrast is just terrible and horrific.

If this school which looks to be 3 stories high had been build of straw bales, there would have been much less damage. Outside of Washington, DC a Quaker religious group is building a three story school of straw bales. This kind of construction is very wind and earthquake resistant, and even if it collapses, is much lighter than the heavy concrete which is crushing people. Google straw bale home construction, and international straw bale registry to learn more. There are over 500 listed SB houses in America, there are 3 in China. With all that rice straw, China could build many.


1,351 posted on 05/16/2008 9:09:13 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
The school building collapsed is 5 stories high,the first and second floor have collapsed to scraps when the other three hang in the top.

I'm not good at architectonics,but I will post your suggest in our forums and find someone to study it.thank you.

1,357 posted on 05/16/2008 10:00:04 AM PDT by adcycn
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To: gleeaikin
I posted your advice in a chinese forum.Here are some replies I translated.

"can't say any words but tear
very complicated mood,especially when reading the first reply(the post about your family)
the second advice may to be investigated for feasibility,imagine if those collapsed building are all built of straw bales how many people could be still alive.
pity there are no "if" in the world."

"we are all human beings~"

"people's hearts are all the same~~~
the most original sensibilities are beyond the obstacle of language or country.
"great love of mother" (many replies with understandings and thanks like above,I'll pass over some and talk about the replies about the building advice )

"Americans and Canadian build there house with wood.I think it's because they have more wood when the bricks are more expensize,only the public establishments are built of reinforced concrete.
though the straw bales house may decrease the damage of hurricane and earthquake cause(there are much hurricane in USA),but such buildings have more hidden trouble of fire.The wood will burn to ash if on fire.
there are no beauideal way.To use which materials shoud depends on which is more practical."

"Wood house's most trouble is not only fire,but also termites,that's more terrible."

"Noway,it will cause fire.
And fire often happend after quake(for leak of gas)
There are plenty of fire in the Hanshin earthquake of japan just because there are too many wooden house there."

"America and Canada's house are all wooden because the bricks are more expenseve than boards.I also think the building made of timberwork is much safer in quake.But that's too expensive in China.And big buildings like hospital is hard to use timberwork for too many problems.
My elementary school in China is made of concrete.It was built before 1950s and still good in 1990s.
My high school in Canada is built in 1970s,leak of rain,rat disease,mildew,ererything."

"It is said those straw bales are dealed with in particular ways ......are fire-proof and mothproof......but not cheap......"

"I lived in western coast of north America,here is also active district of earthquake.
Most civilian's house are made by timberwork,and most house are below 4 storied.
Only public and high buildings are made of armored concrete.
It's true the fireproofing is most important here.
So the fire fighting power here is very strong,acting quickly.And buildings all have sensor of smoke and water spray gear,even the dwelling house.But in China only public buildings have such gears installed.
Respecting the fact that all these stuff are not suitable for China.
First of all,the Population density is a impassable obstacle .If all the buildings in China are low leveled. Then maybe all the people on earth will have nothing to eat.But for sure it's possible to take into account to make some school buildings with low level desigh if the condition is proper.
And industry of Forest in North America is very good,while Canada is the big country who export Wood.But to make plenty of timberwork in China is not reasonable.the circumstance problem in China has been very grimness.I think its better to adjust measures to local conditions,in proper place and maybe school could use,and the fireproofing services should be prepared entirely.
Last is also about fire,here all the warm and cooking are by electric and ruled by flat,which easy to avoid fire.But in China,natural gas is the most used resource of kitchen,which makes fire more easy to happen.
Wish there are more professional to find out,for now let's do our best to help the victims of the disaster area."

Well,I sum up the replies ,the difficulty is that fire and population restriction sound make it impossible to build most buildings with such timberwork materials.But if in proper place and with good fireproof maybe it's good to some specific building like schoo.Well,the cost is a problem also.

Sorry I am not good at translating. the original post in the chinese forum

1,384 posted on 05/16/2008 9:26:38 PM PDT by adcycn
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