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To: wintertime; All
Government schools, freedom of conscience, and the First Amendment can not coexist. ( Please read post #35.)

I respectfully disagree that government and our freedoms cannot coexist.

The problem is that state lawmakers have never gotten their acts together by making tax laws that compliment our 1st A. freedoms. For example, it is not right to expect taxes collected from Muslim taxpayers, for example, to help pay for Holy Bibles for public schools.

The truth of the matter is that the states have never implemented Jefferson's good advice for integrating laws with the beliefs of a given community. Consider the following.

"My proposition [to divide every county into wards and to establish in each a free school] had for a further object, to impart to these wards those portions of self-government for which they are best qualified, by confiding to them the care of their poor, their roads, police, elections, the nomination of jurors, administration of justice in small cases, elementary exercises of militia; in short, to have made them little republics, with a warden at the head of each, for all those concerns which, being under their eye, they would better manage than the larger republics of the county or State. A general call of ward meetings by their wardens on the same day through the State, would at any time produce the genuine sense of the people on any required point, and would enable the State to act in mass." --Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1813. ME 13:400

44 posted on 05/17/2008 2:35:15 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10
I respectfully disagree that government and our freedoms cannot coexist.
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I did **not** say that government and freedom could not coexist. I said that government **schools**, freedom of conscience, and the First Amendment can not coexist. Big difference!

Government schools have a choice:

1) They can allow First Amendment freedoms and freedom of conscience. The result of course is chaotic, unsafe, and absolutely ineffectual schools in which education is impossible.

or...

2) They can violate First Amendment Rights, and have safe and orderly schools.

In both cases a religiously neutral education is impossible. In the case of this particular article. The government school can not simultaneously support and not support the gay agenda. The government school must choose. In either case the government will be establishing, upholding, and supporting the religious worldview of some while, trashing that of the other.

There is a solution: Privatize all K-12 education.

45 posted on 05/17/2008 4:17:17 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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