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America's Independent Party Provisional Platform
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Posted on 05/11/2008 3:07:06 PM PDT by TBP

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To: DoughtyOne
I don't know much about him yet. Ping me if a thread gets going. I'm just waiting to see who JM’s running mate is going to be. If he flip flops on abortion though....forgetabouthim.
41 posted on 05/11/2008 8:42:13 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: EternalVigilance

Thanks EV. After you’ve tightened the thing up, I’d like to read it again. I’ll try to check back over there and see if I have anything to add. I support what you’re doing in spirit. I am no longer persuided by Alan Keyes, but your platform is looking fairly good from what I saw.

I agree with you additional comments. I do think we are die hard Conservatives, and I’m willing to go Republican IF THE PARTY WILL ONLY PULL IT’S HEAD OUT.

Short term, I have no use for it. Dead letter describes it well in my opinion.


42 posted on 05/11/2008 8:48:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Who opposes John McCain's leftist agenda? The RNC, Rep Congress members, the Democrats? Good luck!)
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To: CindyDawg

Thank you CindyDawg. I’ll keep that in mind, and ping you if I come across something.


43 posted on 05/11/2008 8:50:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Who opposes John McCain's leftist agenda? The RNC, Rep Congress members, the Democrats? Good luck!)
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To: browardchad
Isn't that a matter to be left (sink or swim) to the states? Isn't that what federalism is all about?

I would normally agree with you, but because of the reciprocity clause, because all states must honor the contracts made in any one state, I have yet to be convinced that the federalist position is the correct one in this particular matter. It is unworkable.

44 posted on 05/11/2008 8:57:24 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I didn't see any support for the war

You should keep looking. The party's position as I understand it is that whatever one may think about the merits of our going there, we're there ad we cannot turn the country over to the terrorists and their Iranian sponsors. We must win the war and we must see the job through to completion. (W're on the cusp of victory right now anyway, IMO.)

The have linked Ron Paul's comments on ‘No More Hegemony’.

Please show us that link, as I have been there numerous times and have it punched up now in anotehr window and I cannot find that link. I very much doubt that they would be linking to Ron Paul.

45 posted on 05/11/2008 8:57:53 PM PDT by TBP
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To: DoughtyOne

“If we’re not selling our point of view around the world, someone else will sell theirs.”


PAGING CONDI...

(AMEN)


46 posted on 05/11/2008 8:58:05 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: mamelukesabre
WHat about supreme court judges?

What about them?

Do you really think that John McCain, who told supporters that he would NOT appoint anyone like Alito, who led the Gang of 14, who once told the San Francsco chronicle that he opposed overturning Roe v. Wade, who voted to confirm Ruth Buzzi Ginsburg, David Souter, and Steven Breyer, will really appoint strict constructionist, originalist judges?

Justices who are strict constructionists are likely to overturn his chief legislative achievement, McCain-Feingold, if given the chance. He'll never allow that to happen.

McCain's record shows us clearly that there is NO reason to think he'll be of any help to us on that issue. None whatsoever.

But hey, he's a Republican, so he MUST be on our side, right?

47 posted on 05/11/2008 9:04:37 PM PDT by TBP
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To: CindyDawg
[McCain...] If he flip flops on abortion though...

He already has, time after time.

This link may offer some enlightenment about McCain's commitment to Life:

FR: "McCain Poised to Flip on GOP Abortion Platform"

48 posted on 05/11/2008 9:06:43 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: PubliusMM
I like a lot of what the Independents have to say, except the lack of explicit support for the WOT.

From the website itself:

"We believe in a supremely strong, prepared, and well-equipped civilian-controlled United States military, and a bold, visionary and intelligent program of principled constructive engagement with the rest of the world. For us, "peace through strength" is not a mere slogan. It is the means of survival for our country in a very dangerous and often hostile world. Our friendship should be a sought-after possession of all men and women of good will everywhere in the world. Our enmity should be something that all rightfully fear.

"As Ronald Reagan opposed and defeated the designs and desire of the Soviet Union to dominate the world and place it under the tyranny of their Evil Empire, we oppose the Islamic extremists. This opposition is not based in opposition to their religion, but in a complete rejection of their political ideology and actions. Since the first principle of America is the protection of innocent human life, an ongoing state of war exists between us and any who would use acts of terrorism targeted at innocent civilians to forward their political aims."

Does that answer your question? Of course, some folks will still try to spin this, but spin is all that it is.

49 posted on 05/11/2008 9:08:16 PM PDT by TBP
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To: CindyDawg
the reparations issue bugs me.

EV and a couple of others acn address this more thoroughly thanI can, but this whole "he favors reparations" charge is just spin and smear from the political machines of both parties that want to keep Keyes and his people marginalized. It's been grossly mireported for political reasons.

50 posted on 05/11/2008 9:18:45 PM PDT by TBP
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To: TBP

“An ongoing state of war exists” is about as explicit as it gets.


51 posted on 05/11/2008 9:35:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Politics is in the truest sense the business of the citizen." - Alan Keyes)
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To: EternalVigilance
“An ongoing state of war exists” is about as explicit as it gets.

Yes, it is. I jut hope folks like Doughty One see that.

52 posted on 05/11/2008 9:43:52 PM PDT by TBP
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To: TBP

BUMP TTT


53 posted on 05/11/2008 10:45:01 PM PDT by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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To: ZGuy

You are exactly right. Too bad others don’t see this situation.


54 posted on 05/11/2008 11:07:00 PM PDT by taxesareforever (We'll never forget Matt Maupin and his service to our country.)
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To: TBP; SandRat
You know, there is no evidence that Perot made the difference in 1992.

However, there is evidence that Perot DIDN'T make a difference in 1992. Look at the following website and see a picture that no one talks about: http://www.leinsdorf.com/perot.htm

55 posted on 05/11/2008 11:13:57 PM PDT by taxesareforever (We'll never forget Matt Maupin and his service to our country.)
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To: Drango

“Yawnnnnn little more than an effort to split the conservative vote. A POX on your house.”

I love these posts that imply that the GOP is somehow entitled to the conservative vote. Kind of like a welfare entitlement.

Sorry. Political parties have to EARN votes. If the GOP is concerned about earning the votes of conservatives, it can do that by running better candidates. I suggest starting with the top of ticket.


56 posted on 05/12/2008 4:29:31 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Monday morning bttt


57 posted on 05/12/2008 4:37:23 AM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: TBP; EternalVigilance
Pinged from Terri Dailies

8mm


58 posted on 05/12/2008 4:57:33 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: EternalVigilance
Suggested revisions, subtractions, or additions are sought and needed. I won't say we'll follow every suggestion, but I guarantee that every suggestion will be thoroughly considered.

This is great! Thanks for including the "little people" in the process, which is what government of, by, and for the people is all about.

59 posted on 05/12/2008 7:29:37 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Just A Nobody

It’s the “big people” who have gotten us to where we are.

Only the “little people,” rising up en masse, can save this free republic.


60 posted on 05/12/2008 7:46:01 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Politics is in the truest sense the business of the citizen." - Alan Keyes)
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