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To: angkor
And this is precisely where Monomanical Anti-Abortion fanatics begin to go off the deep end and to offend the common sense and decency of most Americans.

Did I somehow offend you? Which statement offended you most, the statement I made that the sins of the father should not be visited on his progeny, the statement that unborn human beings are guilty of nothing or the last statement which acknowledged that mothers who give birth after being raped are very special mothers?

Children do not have the legal right to say "no" to this situation in most cases.

False on the law and the facts as they currently stand in the United States of America.

The parents (and you folks are among this group jwalsh) effectively force the teen child to live with the remembered trauma of rape for 9 additional months and to also suffer all the very real physical problems of pregnancy (including those unique to female teens).

Again false on the law and the facts. I think you can do better.

You call this "principled" thinking, but in order to believe that you also must be opposed to all forms of capital punishment and indeed even the use of lethal force by law enforcement and the military.

The principled thinking part I have already described. The principle is this:

"We must keep our pledge to the first guarantee of the Declaration of Independence. That is why we say the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and we endorse legislation to make it clear that the 14th Amendment's protections apply to unborn children. Our purpose is to have legislative and judicial protection of that right against those who perform abortions. We oppose using public revenues for abortion and will not fund organizations which advocate it. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life."

How do you propose to change that platform language?

You must be absolutely, 100 percent Ghandian in your opposition to violence, and you must apply that principle in all cases and not just abortion cases.

Now let's see where have I heard this putrid argument before? Oh yeah, from putrid left wingers who equate innocent human life to the scum who are wont to murder Innocent human life for the hell of it. Again, you can do better.

Do you? Are you?

Stupid questions based on asinine premises. I think I'll pass.

That's the only moral pass you get. Anything else is naked and staggering hypocrisy.

Hypocrisy abounds.

Rape victims are currently routinely treated with the morning after pill. Do I have a problem with that? Not so much. I know that the morning after pill can, in certain cases, act as an abortofacient but I think the concern for the child's health outweighs that small risk.

I also think that folks arguing the abortion issue based on one hundredth of one percent of the cases are sophists and sometimes drama queens. Like you.

The overwhelming number of abortions are elective for no reason other than convenience. So you tell me how convenience squares with the right to life as described in the Republican platform. And then tell me that it is OK for you to pay the penalty for the sins of your parents. And then you can convince me that killing unborn babies equates to killing in self defense or executing a convicted murderer.

Good luck.

125 posted on 05/11/2008 5:36:09 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (El Nino is climate, La Nina is weather.)
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To: jwalsh07; angkor
jwalsh07,

You are absolutely correct.

It is God that gives life AT CONCEPTION and he commands us to protect it.

He gives no exceptions to that rule.

While I can only guess at the extreme pain that those who have been raped or suffered through incest have to endure I have to ask the following question:

In the final analysis, which is worse:

1. Death (or Murder in this case).
2. Or having to endure the pain, suffering, and ignominy of Rape or Incest.

127 posted on 05/11/2008 10:39:15 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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