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“This is one that needs to be worked out in an impartial, nonpartisan way.” said former U.S. Rep. Charles Stenholm, Democrat, now an agricultural lobbiest including the horse meat industry.
1 posted on 05/10/2008 7:48:07 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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Amnesty ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


2 posted on 05/10/2008 7:53:39 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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Actually, by law, I-9s (showing proof of documentation)has been around for years. Companies can use the E-Verify program through Homeland security to make sure all documents are legitimate. They do not have an EXCUSE. They just want CHEAP labor.
3 posted on 05/10/2008 7:56:14 PM PDT by Paige ("Facts are stubborn things." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Employers can learn to pay a high enough wage to compete in the American market, or, alternatively, they can pass their assets on to a smarter, wiser owner.

Regarding the American "horse meat industry", it no longer exists. America recently decided that instead of slaughtering horses it would simply tether them in wooded glades near interstate highways and allow them to starve to death.

4 posted on 05/10/2008 7:56:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Employers demand continuance of "socialize the cost, privatize the profits".

"We really, really like that," said one businessman.

5 posted on 05/10/2008 7:58:29 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

1. The employers are hiring illegals.
2. The employers know they are hiring illegals.
3. The employers know that hiring illegals is unlawful.
4. The employers do not want to report illegals.
5. The employers are the problem.

Are we to give our country away because employers want cheaper labor?


9 posted on 05/10/2008 8:12:19 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama: America is the greatest country on the earth, Help me bring change.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Jail the employers. Legal employers that have been hurt by cheating employers should be able to sue for thier loss.


10 posted on 05/10/2008 8:14:21 PM PDT by Haddit (A Hunter Conservative)
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To: SwinneySwitch
I imagine at one time in this country there were business people saying the high costs of slaves was putting them out of business.
11 posted on 05/10/2008 8:14:26 PM PDT by Leisler
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“We need to redouble our efforts. The employers need to be in the game,” Bill Hammond, head of the Texas Association of Business, said of the immigration debate in Washington. “Restaurants are not being built, hotels are not being built, crops are not being planted — all for a lack of workers.”

That man would have made a damn fine overseer on one of them east Texas cotton plantations. What we going to do without that cheap labor. Hell he might even be of kind of the one's that run the mccain plantation down in Mississippi. How is he going to be able to buy them new cars and trucks and pay more than slave wages. Damn man, what's a white man to do.

I'm really sick of fart breaths like this Hammond.

12 posted on 05/10/2008 8:17:32 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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We need to monitor these pro-criminal meetings and get lists of what companies are part of the pro-criminal axis. Then get their non-criminal competitors to file civil RICO suits against them.

This would make it very expensive to hire illegal aliens. Pretty soon these criminals would either turn from their criminal behavior or be driven out of business. Let a couple of these criminals lose their companies, homes and bank accounts to their non-criminal competitors and the criminals would be tripping over themselves to get legal.


13 posted on 05/10/2008 8:24:58 PM PDT by SUSSA
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The summit sponsored by Texas Employers for Immigration Reform...

I've read somewhere (sorry no link) that this group was created and funded by Bo Pilgrim, the East Texas poultry magnate.

This organization had a "summit" in Tyler a few months back with the usual sniveling about the lack of suitable employees.

14 posted on 05/10/2008 8:34:25 PM PDT by primeval patriot
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This California county has 23 to 27 percent unemployment.

It is hard for citizens to get a job at Wal-Mart, Target, K-Mart, Costco, or just about anywhere else due to the pressures applied by willing illegals to work for less and keep their mouths shut.

15 posted on 05/10/2008 8:35:26 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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“Restaurants are not being built, hotels are not being built, crops are not being planted — all for a lack of workers.”

Easy to verify this as true or false.

How much have wages gone up in restaurants, hotels, and agriculture?

Unfulfilled high demand for labor equals higher pay.

I'll bet a years worth of my own pay that low skill wages in Texas have not kept up with inflation for the last 5 years.

The irony is amazing.

Politicians shriek with outrage when American jobs are outsourced to foreign labor.

Yet they do nothing when 20 million foreign laborers are in-sourced to America.

16 posted on 05/10/2008 9:02:07 PM PDT by zeestephen
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“Restaurants are not being built, hotels are not being built, crops are not being planted — all for a lack of workers.”

The USA just passed the 350 million mark. There's plenty of workers, we don't need any more immigrants.

17 posted on 05/10/2008 9:54:44 PM PDT by Spirochete
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“Restaurants are not being built, hotels are not being built,

We have more than enough hotels and restaurants in the USA especially with the high cost of energy
18 posted on 05/10/2008 11:15:34 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: SwinneySwitch

B U M ping


19 posted on 05/11/2008 12:11:50 AM PDT by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: SwinneySwitch
We need to redouble our efforts. The employers need to be in the game, Bill Hammond, head of the Texas Association of Business, said of the immigration debate in Washington. Restaurants are not being built, hotels are not being built, crops are not being planted all for a lack of workers.

What an unbelievably ridiculous statement. Are we supposed to be a nation of restaurants and hotels as if our life depended on it? A hundred years ago the talk was about expanding industry and manufacturing while today they're complaining about how their aren't enough low wage workers to fill jobs at the local Burger King. Welcome to the third world.

21 posted on 05/11/2008 6:26:57 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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Where are the engineers making machines to pick these products?

We have organge and grapefruit pickers which reduced the number of workers.

we have grain combines.

Why not for tomatoes?


22 posted on 05/11/2008 9:48:08 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Horsemeat is fine but BS is still BS, and if the illegal aliens won't go home then their employers should become prepared for lengthy stays in American prisons.

BTW, their assets will not go to waste. They'll simply be sold to more responsible owners.

30 posted on 05/17/2008 4:09:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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