From the PDF:
(ii) Any property constituting or derived
6 from any proceeds obtained directly or indirectly
7 as a result of a violation of subsection (a).
8 (iii) Any property used, or intended to be
9 used, to commit or facilitate the commission of
10 a violation of subsection (a) that is owned or
11 predominantly controlled by the violator or by a
12 person conspiring with or aiding and abetting
13 the violator in committing the violation, except
14 that property is subject to forfeiture under this
15 clause only if the Government establishes that
16 there was a substantial connection between the
17 property and the violation of subsection (a).
That pretty much leaves it wide open there. It uses the same methods as the "Comprehensive Drug Abuse & Control Act of 1970" , so since they can take your house for drugs, I have to assume that means they plan on taking your house for copyright infringement also.
You could say they will just confiscate your computers, but theres nothing that makes them stop there.
the voting scorecard?
Right here.
Only 11 Noes, to include Ron Paul.
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To: JerseyHighlander
There's a point at which an agrieved party steps over the line of settlement and is carried away by greed.
That's also the same point that a jury cannot help but understand when they turn a killer loose.
RIAA is really, really close to that point.
These guys weren't breast fed were they.
2 posted on
05/09/2008 12:15:24 PM PDT by
muawiyah
To: JerseyHighlander
I have to assume that means they plan on taking your house for copyright infringement also. And it goes without saying, you will loose your Second Amendment right for life.
3 posted on
05/09/2008 12:27:58 PM PDT by
TLI
( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
To: JerseyHighlander
"This is particularly irksome in light of the MSN Music shutdown, about which the EFF has written a strong and powerful letter. It is increasingly likely a normal person could have purchased music legally from an online site, burned it to an ordinary audio CD, and in the right set of circumstances be branded a pirate because the original "granting" authority no longer exists to prove that the consumer was a legitimate purchasers."
This is truly bothersome to me. MSN music has already shut down and I believe my wife may have purchased music from them before. Not only are they turning off their DRM servers soon, but if I rip her songs onto CDs then I may as well have stolen them. I guess the lesson is "keep your receipts." If you can at least prove that you purchased songs online then perhaps you have a leg to stand on if ever anyone comes after you.
I never have liked the competition of DRM formats anyway; it's always seemed to me to be a way for companies to stifle competition amongst music players and music download services. It's just a way for them to force you to buy their music players to go with their download service, rather than let consumers decide.
To: JerseyHighlander
If they want to fix copyright law, they should simply abide by the Berne Convention and CLOSE the US Copyright office!
It's just another tax and bureaucracy. EU Copyright
The Berne Convention (which the US has signed) states that all something needs is constructive notice to be copyrighted... and lately not even that. It's enough to prove that you wrote something first.
But in the US, you cannot sue for damages or attorney's fees if you did not register your copyright with the US Copyright office for a fee of $45.00. Everywhere else in the world, this protection is free.
Imagine a blogger paying this $45.00 for every post to be protected?
So for all intents and purposes, US Copyright protection is effectively 3 months for most people. The rest of the world give authors copyright protection for about 50 years after their death.
5 posted on
05/09/2008 12:32:50 PM PDT by
Bon mots
To: qam1
This might be worth a Xer Ping?
To: JerseyHighlander
Gee, let's see. Lots of buildings and businesses were built or are staffed by illegal aliens.
I'll believe the U.S. Congress is serious about laws when they stop confiscating kids computers for downloading bad music and start confiscating the property of adults who damn well know better but break U.S. immigration and labor laws anyway.
7 posted on
05/09/2008 12:34:11 PM PDT by
Regulator
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9 posted on
05/09/2008 12:39:33 PM PDT by
CJ Wolf
(Freepmail to get On or Off the ron paul let freedom ping.)
To: JerseyHighlander
12 posted on
05/09/2008 12:49:11 PM PDT by
mysterio
To: JerseyHighlander
I keep telling everyone.....They Are ALL Ba$tard$!
15 posted on
05/09/2008 12:57:26 PM PDT by
sheana
To: JerseyHighlander
18 posted on
05/09/2008 1:00:19 PM PDT by
DBrow
To: JerseyHighlander
Our socialist government hates private property. This is just the latest excuse to steal it.
To: JerseyHighlander
25 posted on
05/09/2008 1:23:34 PM PDT by
ctdonath2
(The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
To: JerseyHighlander; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; ...
28 posted on
05/09/2008 1:31:54 PM PDT by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: JerseyHighlander
“House passes bill (HR 4279) that will let the RIAA take away your home for downloading music”
Yet another good reason to rent.
31 posted on
05/09/2008 1:58:13 PM PDT by
Grunthor
(Mccain praised pro-illegal protests saying that they could force the laws to be liberalized)
To: JerseyHighlander
I wrote my congresscritter about this months ago, and he went right ahead and voted for it. I think I’ll be writing him another letter.
To: JerseyHighlander
IMHO, the music recording industry RARELY puts out anything anymore worth buying no differently than Hollwierd putting out movies that aren’t worth paying the price to go see them.
38 posted on
05/09/2008 2:25:14 PM PDT by
diverteach
(http://foolishpleasurestudio.com/eyewool/slap_hillary.html)
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The Copyfraud ping: copyright, patent and trademark abuse, and general abuse of laws in the digital age.
If you want on or off the Copyfraud Ping List,
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To: JerseyHighlander
Reasonable men will obey reasonable laws.
44 posted on
05/09/2008 2:43:11 PM PDT by
papasmurf
(Unless I post a link to a resource, what I post is opinion, regardless of how I spin it.)
To: JerseyHighlander
Still reading, but when I came acrodd this...
Like the doublespeak PATRIOT Act and Peacekeeper missiles,
...I knew that this guy is, at best, in "stopped-clock-is-right-twice-a-day" territory.
Whenever someone says the Patriot act is unamerican, I always look forward to their tales of how they objected just as long and loud about the same methods being applied to drug dealers and mobsters, but they never seem to have any stories like that...
45 posted on
05/09/2008 2:48:33 PM PDT by
Mr. Silverback
(It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
To: JerseyHighlander
This is a dumb law............... as the Chinese as stealing every song, movie, t.v. show and video made in America and reselling them for pennies throughout all of Asia.
Americans buy music............ look at the money itunes makes............ so going after your customers in court and taking away everything they own is misguided and it will ultimately blow up in their face.
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