Besides, wasn’t the modern state of Israel created by the U.N.? Isn’t the messiah supposed to call the Jews back to Israel?
Cyrus the Great was given the title of Messiah for allowing Jews to return to Israel after Babylonian captivity. Why cant even a vile institution like the UN be part of G_d's plan here?
Also, the UN recognized the Third Israeli Commonwealth. Jewish blood and the will of G_d created it.
From a purely theological question, the modern state of Israel is a stumbling block for traditional Jews and Christian
It is no stumbling block for Jews. For those Christians who lack faith in Jesus as the Messiah, I suppose it could be. That's you fault, not Israels.
Nice try, but really - it’s a failed attempt.
Civility? Who’s against that?
From a Jewish perspective, the Romans defeating the Jews in 66-128 AD and the smashing of the temple were edicts from G-d. You’re not allowing to retake something by force.
In fact, the secular state of Israel is a grave spiritual error.
From a Christian point of view, anything post Resurrection is moot. There is no spiritual tie between Christians and Jews.
As an example, if the Jewish Messiah showed up tomorrow and brought all Torah true Jews to Eretz Yisrael (the real one - not the contemporary one) then Christians would understand themselves to be in spiritual error.
Although there’s nothing in the Chumash that prohibits non-Jews from straying. Non-Jews are not binded (or blessed) to be obedient. If believing in Jesus is idol worship - there’s no sin committed by a gentile for believing.
Yours truly,
The Woim