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Man who killed hikers in '81 suspected in shootings (Giles County, VA)
The Richmond Times-Dispatch ^ | 05/08/2008

Posted on 05/08/2008 8:05:14 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands

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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I agree. There were obviously no witnesses, and they probably thought - at that particular time - that this was the safest way to get him locked up at least for awhile.


41 posted on 05/08/2008 8:36:40 AM PDT by livius
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To: Moose4
Texans say it best...”there’s some folks that just need killin’.” This guy is one of ‘em.

Yep. It seems to me that people who kill strangers, kill in the commission of another crime, kill in a particularly cruel fashion, or are obsessive about a spouse are all likely to have a pathology which suggests they will kill again. They should either be executed or kept locked away.

42 posted on 05/08/2008 8:44:08 AM PDT by JimSEA
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Victim Update: The Roanoke Times says one victim was released, the other remains hospitalized in critical condition.
43 posted on 05/08/2008 8:52:51 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (What if Tony Almeida is the 12th Cylon?)
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To: Corin Stormhands

So what penalty will he get this time? Fifteen minutes in time out?


44 posted on 05/08/2008 8:55:27 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

Nope, thanks to George Allen, there’s no more parole.


45 posted on 05/08/2008 8:57:33 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (What if Tony Almeida is the 12th Cylon?)
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To: Corin Stormhands

If killing two people in cold blood is only worth 14 years, then shooting two more ought to get him at least another 5-7 years. Hikers in VA can sleep well tonight (sarc)


46 posted on 05/08/2008 9:00:39 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
...."14 years for two murders ?".....

I remember like it was yesterday the interview Ted Coppel had on Nightline back during the Rodney King riot days. He interviewed a gangbanger that went "straight". He was impressed with the perps intellectual acumen for being a gang leader. This ganger was about 40 some odd years old. When Coppel asked what he went to prison for, he, of course, offered up a laundry list, but finally settled on "murder". When Coppel asked how many people he killed, the perp sat there a moment as if gathering his thoughts and came up with the number "19".

My jaw hit the ground. What the hell is this guy doing still breathing, let alone out on parole. Apparently if you kill the "right" people, nobody cares. He was convicted and received typical sentences of 7-8 years and got out in 3, for "good behavior". If you shoot blacks, Hispanics, or other gang members, you get some sort of break in LA courts. I have to wonder what the sentencing phase sounded like when his rap sheet was brought out. After about 3 manslaughter convictions and a couple of murder convictions, not even counting the assaults with deadly weapons and attempted murder charges, you would think they might get this guy out of circulation.

47 posted on 05/08/2008 9:08:40 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: east1234
Hate to disagree but most people murder out of rage at an individual, the so called crime of passion. Most won’t repeat unless exposed to a very simmilar situation. Some are serial killers who get off on it, this guy sounds like one of them.

Your statement is not exactly true. True, most murders are committed by someone who knew the victim, but most are not crimes of passion, as you put it. If most murders were done in the heat of anger then the liberals who claim carrying a gun by ordinary citizens would result in a blood bath would be true, but the facts in shall carry states refute that, the opposite is true, murders actually decrease.

Most murders are committed with a motive in mind, getting uncle's money, killing the husband or wife so they can be with a new partner(and keep the money too), killing the kids simply because you don't want them around any more, etc. Those are your most common murders. These people, along with psychopaths such as the one in this article, should all be put to death for their crimes.

48 posted on 05/08/2008 9:09:26 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Corin Stormhands

How did he dodge the needle last time? We’re usually pretty good about solving problems like this.


49 posted on 05/08/2008 9:55:34 AM PDT by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: GingisK

I doubt if he will get out this time. We tend to throw the book at nutjobs here anymore since Virginia Tech. He will get 5 years for using a gun in a felony(mandatory) and the other two charges will be attempted murder, maybe attempted capital murder.


50 posted on 05/08/2008 10:00:52 AM PDT by ClayinVA
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How did he dodge the needle last time?

The prosecution plea bargained because they didn't think they had enough evidence. IIRC they found a note he had written and his clothes with blood on them at his mother's home.

The ~somewhat~ more disturbing thing is why he was ever released. And beyond that why he was ever released from the monitoring anklet.

51 posted on 05/08/2008 10:11:41 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (What if Tony Almeida is the 12th Cylon?)
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To: Corin Stormhands

He served 14 years of a 30 year sentence? Why does that not make me feel really comfortable?


52 posted on 05/08/2008 12:45:12 PM PDT by EDINVA (Proud American for 23,062 days.... and counting!)
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To: ClayinVA
I doubt if he will get out this time.

The man should be crushed with an asphalt roller in a Wal-Mart parking lot.

53 posted on 05/08/2008 1:03:04 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Corin Stormhands

What idiot gave him only 14 years for a double murder?


54 posted on 05/08/2008 1:08:04 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Corin Stormhands

Guess his 20 some years wasn’t long enough to “rehabilitate” him.


55 posted on 05/08/2008 1:09:04 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

He was sentenced to 30. Paroled after 14.

George Allen fixed that part of the parole system.


56 posted on 05/08/2008 1:37:45 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (What if Tony Almeida is the 12th Cylon?)
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To: All
Randall Lee Smith died in jail tonight. story here.
57 posted on 05/10/2008 9:14:10 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (What if Tony Almeida is the 12th Cylon?)
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Update ping


58 posted on 05/10/2008 9:44:53 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (What if Tony Almeida is the 12th Cylon?)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Instant karma’s gonna get you, Randall Lee Smith.

}:-)4


59 posted on 05/11/2008 5:33:47 AM PDT by Moose4 (http://moosedroppings.wordpress.com -- Because 20 million self-important blogs just aren't enough.)
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To: east1234
“Don’t have anything for you, but that it is well known in the Law Enforcement/Forensics community.”

I have come to question this “known fact” myself. What has been promoted is the idea that most murderers are just the “average Joe” who “snaps” at a crucial moment.

Most murderers have long histories of violence. A lot of murders are the result of a long history of violence against the victim. I don't know exactly how many murders are of the domestic violence type, but if you remove those from the equation, then I very much question the idea that most murders occur as acts of passion, other than the passion for violence itself.

60 posted on 05/11/2008 6:55:25 AM PDT by marktwain
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