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To: myself6
What the hell would McCain be keeping safe? What the hell would any of these socialist bastards be protecting?

This is where you crossed over from unwise to moronic.

Were the Trade Centers a symbol of socialism? Were there a lot of socialist politicians at Cantor Fitzgerald that morning?

The first and foremost responsibility of government is to protect the citizenry with its military. That is, in fact, the primary reason that we have governments, so that an organized group of humans can secure their property with force if necessary. Yet you're saying the conservative position is to reject that absolutely undisputed, unquestioned and profoundly unsocialist responsibility. That's not any more reasonable than saying it's government's job to promote gay sex or sell crack.

People say that conservatism is in a muddle because of an unclear message, or because we've had too many people call themselves conservatives while embracing liberal positions. I agree, but I also think the reason we're in a muddle is because we have people like you actually acting like the worst thing we can do is expect government to do it's bleedin' job.

132 posted on 05/09/2008 9:48:10 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Well, at least we are off the subject of puckering up to questionable areas of the anatomy.

Reading comprehension isn’t really your strong point is it? Its ok, the public school system will do that to ya.

“Conservatism” is in a muddle because “conservatives” continue to support socialist institutions, parties, policies, etc. Maybe support is a strong word and the appropriate terminology would be “put up with”, But the result is the same. “Conservatives” (whatever that word really means) as a whole, have allowed themselves to be used by a political party.

I would agree that primary role of the federal government is defending the states and the constitution. I remember the oath I took when I joined the Navy to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. What job do you want the federal government to do? The people who currently infest the institutions are hard at work nullifying the constitution. In my mind this makes them UNQUALIFIED to protect and defend ANYTHING.

lets go slow here at this crucial point in the argument so that your sure to pick up on it...

The same people destroying the constitution are also destroying any legitimate reason to defend this nation.

Are you following along?

The further this nation gets from the founding principles the less worthy it is of defending. And its pretty damn far right now. I mean come on, at some point the chains of the “protector” become more unbearable than attacks of the hostile enemy.

But sure.. I get your point, your interested in protecting everyones material well being at the expense of the existential freedom. Communism is the ultimate materialism, existential ideas such as freedom and liberty are spurned and ridiculed. Makes sense that the these concepts, once valued by Americans, would be made irrelevant or less important than the material well being. Hell, you cant even grasp the concept.


133 posted on 05/09/2008 12:08:08 PM PDT by myself6 (Nazi = socialist , democrat=socialist , therefore democrat = Nazi)
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