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Texas caught off guard as more seek handgun permits
Houston Chronicle ^ | May 8, 2008, 12:29AM | JANET ELLIOTT

Posted on 05/08/2008 5:14:46 AM PDT by FooBarBaz

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On the radio this morning they said it's getting close to "1 in 6" adults in Texas (I paraphrase here) "Walking around armed". I was listening to KLBJ in Austin. Not sure if they meant to say that 1 in 6 own guns, or that 1 in 6 had a CHL.
1 posted on 05/08/2008 5:14:46 AM PDT by FooBarBaz
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"Walking around armed"

Not sure if they meant to say that 1 in 6 own guns, or that 1 in 6 had a CHL.

They knew EXACTLY what they were saying. I am just surprized they didn't say "Walking around with hidden guns". Much scarier that way, no?

2 posted on 05/08/2008 5:24:36 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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The state is taking a month longer than the 60 days allowed by law to process original applications and 80 days longer on renewals, which are supposed to be handled within 45 days.
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Yet, voters and in particular voters on the Left insist that government should deliver more essential services. How long would Wal-Mart last if it took 125 to process any customer transaction? How many seconds would it take to fire any manager who declined to take whatever staffing action to eliminate such a delay?

3 posted on 05/08/2008 5:27:31 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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Hmmm, basic mistake here. The license is for 4 years, not 5. Maybe the license should be 5 to relieve some of the backlog!
4 posted on 05/08/2008 5:28:08 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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There is no way in hell 1 in 6 ANYBODY is walking around armed. A lot of people who get licensed to carry a firearm never do after initial tests of doing so. It is too uncomfortable, too inconvenient and too much responsibility. People go through the motions and then don’t bother to carry. I have no scientific data but I suspect that 2 in 100 Texans carry a gun on a regular basis, even if 1 in 6 is licensed to do so.

Anybody have reliable statistics about this?


5 posted on 05/08/2008 5:29:18 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Puppage

The folks on KLBJ in the morning are fairly conservative; Even Sgt. Sam, who’s at least a half-a-fascist, is 100% on target when guns are concerned. I did not hear anything I’d regard as scare tactics on the radio.


6 posted on 05/08/2008 5:29:37 AM PDT by FooBarBaz (A coward judges all he sees by what he is.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Ah...it took almost 6 months to get mine.


7 posted on 05/08/2008 5:34:33 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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There’s no way it can be argued that this process, even when it’s working at the prescribed speed, isn’t an unconcstitutional infringement. 60 days? Training requirement?

In Pennsylvania (Philadelphia excluded), you can do the whole thing in half a day. You just need to go to your local police station to have them fill out a card that basically says they’re not aware that you’re involved in any criminal activity. Then you take the card to the CCW office in the county courthouse, plunk down a few bucks ($15 last time I did it, for a 5 year license), get your photo taken (no fingerprints), they run a NICS check, and assuming NICS doesn’t flag you, you walk out with your license 5 minutes later, after the photo dries and they stick the photo and card through a laminator.

And I’ve complained to the CCW office that even THAT process is an infringement, because they don’t have any evening or weekend hours, making it difficult for people who work a normal office schedule. And of course, the requirement to get a license at all is an infringement.

At any rate, given that Texas law specifies a time limit, I don’t expect anyone will get in legal trouble for not having a valid CCW license, as long as they applied 60/45 days earlier. And I think every CCW holder and overdue applicant in the state should take up open-carry 24/7 until the system is at least in compliance with state law.


8 posted on 05/08/2008 5:37:56 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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I am just surprized they didn't say "Walking around with hidden guns".

I've noticed around here that they antis like the "loaded concealed handgun" phrasing. I'm pretty sure that they wouldn't object if the darn things had no bullets in them. :/

9 posted on 05/08/2008 5:39:34 AM PDT by cryptical ("The future is already here; it's just not evenly distributed." - William Gibson)
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There’s no way it can be argued that this process, even when it’s working at the prescribed speed, isn’t an unconcstitutional infringement. 60 days? Training requirement?

I was born and raised in New Jersey. I'm just glad that my new masters here in Texas generously allow me to pay a fee, take training, pass tests, and get background checks so that I'm permitted to adequately defend myself. :-P

10 posted on 05/08/2008 5:41:53 AM PDT by FooBarBaz (A coward judges all he sees by what he is.)
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I don’t know about “walking around,” but I drive around armed. I keep my Mossberg in my truck at all times.

Thats the nice thing about Texas, you can carry long arms just about anywhere.


11 posted on 05/08/2008 5:44:31 AM PDT by Weaponier (Someone turn off the lights...)
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To: FooBarBaz

It is up 80% here is VA.


12 posted on 05/08/2008 5:46:13 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I always rely on God and Guns in that order)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
I have no scientific data but I suspect that 2 in 100 Texans carry a gun on a regular basis

I would be surprised if it's even that many, but then you never know...and that's the psychological deterrent that makes CCW's so appealing. Stay friendly out there...or else.

13 posted on 05/08/2008 5:48:24 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The GOP death march to the gravesite is underway.)
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I just jumped through all the hoops in Delaware and was “granted” a CCDW license. Being a transplant from “the peoples republic of N.J.” I was,at least happy for a chance, to go through the process with a chance to be “granted” my right to protect myself.
14 posted on 05/08/2008 5:54:11 AM PDT by quincysbuddy
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People are worried about an impending Democrat government. Registering your right to carry a gun and thus implying your ownership of guns seems to be self defeating if that is the reason for it, though. Under the circumstances it would seem to be more prudent to buy guns from private parties and stock up on ammo and reloaders an don’t tell the government anything.


15 posted on 05/08/2008 5:59:20 AM PDT by arthurus
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Under the circumstances it would seem to be more prudent to buy guns from private parties and stock up on ammo and reloaders an don’t tell the government anything.

Yep.

16 posted on 05/08/2008 6:00:53 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The GOP death march to the gravesite is underway.)
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Good point.


17 posted on 05/08/2008 6:03:48 AM PDT by alarm rider ("Difficile est saturam non scibere" -- it's difficult not to write satire.)
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To: Weaponier

I was stopped for speeding last weekend. (Texas DPS gave me a warning ticket.) I told the DPS officer I had a CHL and provided it to him with my Drivers License. He handed the CHL back to me and asked if I had it in the car, “Yes Sir, always, Do you wan to see it”. His answer, “No, just don’t go for it!”

I thought he was courteous and professional.
BTW, I do frequently carry inside businesses, depending on where I am going, etc.


18 posted on 05/08/2008 6:08:47 AM PDT by Tahoe3002 (USMC 1972-1981)
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To: TexasRedeye

Last time mine was nenewed was for five years!


19 posted on 05/08/2008 6:10:12 AM PDT by longhorn too
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To: FooBarBaz

In your post about KLBJ, you said it was fairly conservative, but then you say that Sgt Sam is half-fascist.
Which is it?
Conservatism is the opposite of Fascism (which is socialism)?

Next question: Is there really a conservative station in Babylon on the Colorado???


20 posted on 05/08/2008 6:13:29 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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