[billva]

That there's a huge contingent of liberalism in the UM. There's also a very strong contingent fighting against that.

If that is true then your first comment about United Methodist, enough said would seem to be overkill.

[Corin Stormhands]

I included that because there are those who would say the UM is completely lost to socialism. It’s not. There’s an uphill battle, but it is being waged.

(and no, I’m not UM)