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Why a Spiritual Advisor to President Bush Supports Obama
Belief Net ^ | No idea | Dan Gilgoff

Posted on 05/07/2008 8:39:24 PM PDT by Dawnsblood

I think since they--whomever they are--since they could not find anything wrong with him as a person, there seemingly has been an attempt to reach out and find something wrong with those who are allegedly around him. Everybody keeps saying, “Well, he sat there for 20 years." For starters, he didn’t sit there for 20 years, right? He’s been a member for 20 years. He’s not sat there for 20 years. For three years, he was in law school. Another eight years, he was in the state senate, and another three years--or three years, really now four--he’s been in the US senate. I don’t mean to split hairs on this, but it hasn’t been 20 years.

And furthermore, truth be told, there are some things that Pastor Wright has said that are absolutely true. Now, you may not like how he said it, and whenever your metaphor overwhelms what you have to say, that can be problematic. But there are a number of African Americans in this country who affirm the ministry of Pastor Wright.

Can you give an example of something Wright said that was “blown up” by the news media?

This whole G.D. America piece, that’s a great example. First of all, right after he says that, the next sentence, which they never play, says, “And that’s in the Bible.” Now, it’s not written that way in English, but the Hebraic expression basically says this: if America makes itself and views itself as God, and not Yahweh, or the Lord God Almighty as God, then America basically is committing adultery, and then America is darning itself.

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KEYWORDS: bush; crazy; endorse; kirbyjoncaldwell; pastor; religiousleft
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I totally do not understand this. Maybe I do not understand religion as well as he does ... (You have to read the whole article. I left a lot out.
1 posted on 05/07/2008 8:39:26 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: Dawnsblood

Oh, the Rev is black. Surprise.


2 posted on 05/07/2008 8:41:38 PM PDT by DManA
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Oh, the Rev is black. Surprise.

More to the point, he's United Methodist.

3 posted on 05/07/2008 8:43:42 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (What if Tony Almeida is the 12th Cylon?)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Oh, the Rev is black. Surprise.

More to the point, he's United Methodist.

Just what does that mean?

4 posted on 05/07/2008 8:48:08 PM PDT by billva
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To: Dawnsblood

Every time that I’ve heard the “GD” clip played, I heard the line,”...“And that’s in the Bible.” The Rev. must be thinking about something else.


5 posted on 05/07/2008 8:51:52 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (De-Globalize yourself !)
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To: Dawnsblood

Does it get any better after the part you excerpted? ‘Cause I almost tossed a cookie getting that far. Ridiculous excuses for absurdly expressed hatred. And Wright was Obama’s pastor/spiritual mentor/adviser for 20 years whether he attended lots of sermons or not.


6 posted on 05/07/2008 8:55:18 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: Dawnsblood

Bush should find a Republican spiritual advisor. But perhaps it’s too late


7 posted on 05/07/2008 8:57:34 PM PDT by buck jarret
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To: Dawnsblood

May I live long enough to hear a black criticize a black leader! Probably once in a thousand years. The black populace is very intimidated by such as Al and Jesse!


8 posted on 05/07/2008 9:01:24 PM PDT by Doctor Don
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To: Dawnsblood

too bad the “spiritual advisor” sees it as he does, I don’t agree but will not belabor the points he feels are worth working to elect a vessel for liberalism, but everyone is free to their opine.


9 posted on 05/07/2008 9:02:37 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!)
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To: Dawnsblood

All you have to do is make Rev. Wright white; make him McCain’s close spiritual adviser; and have him mimicking black people, Hispanic people, and Asian people.

There wouldn’t be a person on the planet who would defend him or try to find some religious rationalization for what he said. The media would be in meltdown. The Democrats would use him in campaign commericials.

What we as Americans have to do is treat Rev. Wright exactly the way we’d treat any white person who said the things he did.

Making excuses or rationalizing bad behavior from non-whites is the textbook definition of racism.


10 posted on 05/07/2008 9:06:33 PM PDT by Thomas W.
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To: Dawnsblood

THE POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS WHORES ARE STARTING TO SURFACE, CHOOSING RACE OVER MORALITY, GODLINESS AND PATRIOTISM.


11 posted on 05/07/2008 9:06:39 PM PDT by no dems (The Democrats destroying each other gives me moments of pleasureable reflections.)
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To: Doctor Don

He isn’t what we might call a leader but at least its a start:
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=33293190


12 posted on 05/07/2008 9:09:14 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (This space reserved for a decent candidate,,,lemme know when we get one.)
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To: Doctor Don
Try a little bit of this guy. I think you'll find that he's refreshingly NOT intimidated. ; )
13 posted on 05/07/2008 9:14:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: Uriah_lost

Ha, ya beat me to it.


14 posted on 05/07/2008 9:15:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: Dawnsblood
"Everybody keeps saying, “Well, he sat there for 20 years." For starters, he didn’t sit there for 20 years, right? He’s been a member for 20 years. He’s not sat there for 20 years. For three years, he was in law school. Another eight years, he was in the state senate, and another three years--or three years, really now four--he’s been in the US senate. I don’t mean to split hairs on this, but it hasn’t been 20 years."

How about 20 years worth of Sundays? Everyone else in the world who goes to church manages to work and go to church. Quit making excuses for Obama. He sat there for 20 years worth of Sundays, shouting "Amen" to Racist Wrights Sunday racist sermons. Wright: "God damn America!" Obama: "Amen" Wright: "American wwhitey invented aids to kill blacks!" Obama: "Amen".

15 posted on 05/07/2008 9:17:14 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Dawnsblood

I, too, do not profess to be an expert on the Bible, but it seems to me it was written before 1492, right? Wouldn’t any reference to America be one hell of a good guess?


16 posted on 05/07/2008 9:18:58 PM PDT by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: billva

Methodists are pretty liberal, possibly not a born again reverend but just an ordained Methodist minister, liberal of course. I don’t know him so I can’t really say, but MOST methodist ministers seem to be more liberal than conservative.


17 posted on 05/07/2008 9:19:40 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Dawnsblood
Now, it’s not written that way in English, but the Hebraic expression basically says this: if America makes itself and views itself as God, and not Yahweh, or the Lord God Almighty as God, then America basically is committing adultery, and then America is darning itself.

The metaphor falls on its face. It isn't true that America makes itself and views itself as God. This is just a kinder gentler anti-American prejudice. At least Rev Wright isn't pissing on our backs and telling us its raining. This guy is.

18 posted on 05/07/2008 9:21:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

And he’s totally wacked. He must read his bible holding it upside down or something. There is NOTHING truthful in anything Wright says.


19 posted on 05/07/2008 9:23:20 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: billva

The Methodists are the farthest Left of the mainline religions except for the Jesuit Liberation Theology marxists.

They dominated the Hanoi Lobby during the war and their leaders have been involved in every major communist united front on issues ranging from the Pershing Missiles/Cruise missiles, to SDI to ANSWER, United for Peace & Justice, and the old CPUSA united fronts of the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s

Try Mia Adjali and Herman Will and Armstrong, etc.

Get ahold of David Jessups works on where Methodist money goes - to the far-left. It will shake you up if you are a normal person.


20 posted on 05/07/2008 9:26:12 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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