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To: Bokababe

There`s a list of mediavel and contemporary documents of researches in ethnology, archaeology, history, linguistics, genealogy, genetics...of mostley what we call today “western Balkans”. Some of those I studied before like mediavel famous DAI - “De Administrando Imperio”
by Emperor of Byzant Constantine VII Porphyrogenitus
(chronicle of the events from 7th to 10th cen.) or some of Karoling`s Annals, and some quotes from contemporary sientists are very interesting also:

Albanians in Kosova:
Western historians prove that the ancestors of today’s Albanian population achieved majority status by ETHNICALLY CLEANSING the Serb population in the 16th and 17th centuries...
http://www.geocities.com/aia_skenderbeg/turkish_era.html

and especially this quote:

“For instance, the ethnogenesis of the Albanians was an open question among Albanian scholars in the 1950s, but when Enver Hoxha declared that their origin was Illyrian (without denying their Pelasgian roots), no one dared participate in any further discussion of the question. During the Communist era, literary and artistic activity as well as academic studies (especially historic and linguistic studies) all adhered to this pattern. By this means a virtual world was created in which Albanians lived within the propaganda framework of the part and of the literary, artistic and academic works, which pervaded schools, libraries, cinemas, theaters and exhibitions.
...
…the old myths of national romanticism like that of Skenderbeg and ‘the religion of the Albanians is Albanianism’ remain the dominant mythologies in Albanian cultural and political life today.

Fatos Lubonja

Between the Glory of a Virtual World & the Misery of a Real World”

also :

John Wilkes
The Peoples of Europe: The Illyrians
1992 Blackwell Publishers

Researches like those should resolve issues in questions of myth and reality, bringing evidences in history, archaeology, anthropology and other fields in humanistic sciencies and to try to clear already big mess in Balkans and not to be used in everyday cheap political fightings. Just a tip for those funny people who “do not lack knowledge of the Balkans or its history”.


101 posted on 05/08/2008 3:51:57 PM PDT by BabaYaga (BRE!)
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To: BabaYaga

“Albanians in Kosova:
Western historians prove that the ancestors of today’s Albanian population achieved majority status by ETHNICALLY CLEANSING the Serb population in the 16th and 17th centuries...”

Indeed, therefore the Albanians have been the majority in Kosovo for 400 years or so. From where any reasonable person would stand, such a situation should be an accepted fact, not a cause for present outrage.


108 posted on 05/09/2008 1:07:42 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: BabaYaga

“by ETHNICALLY CLEANSING the Serb population in the 16th and 17th centuries”

Let’s ASSUME that that is true. Btw: Albanians, after being conquered by Turks, left for Italy, Romania, Croatia and especially Greece (their heroes, Suliotet, Hydra and Spetses, are 100% Albanian, but they will deny it)

Exchange Vojvodina for Kosovo. We know how you got to Vojvodina...whereas Albanians claim that they came down from the mountains that Serbs had chased them into. In fact, doesn’t Dusan mention Albanians and especially legislates how to keep them from settling back in the fields..in 14th century? Read it.


271 posted on 06/30/2008 6:37:29 PM PDT by Santino Sonny Corleone
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