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Tracy Ingle: Another Drug War Outrage
Reason Magazine ^ | Radley Balko

Posted on 05/07/2008 9:13:08 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: catchem

That indeed is a problem now isn’t it? You could say how could O.J. go free when the entire world knew he murdered Nicole Simpson but the guy who robbed the seven-eleven with a gun gets 7 years hard time. Or how about the many years child molestors who molested family members for years were given two year sentences and in some cases, probation? The land, buildings and people will still be here, but it may not be called the USA for too much longer. Perhaps more like simply America.


41 posted on 05/07/2008 6:25:47 PM PDT by quant5
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To: Resolute Conservative
So you like asbestos, mercury in your water, unlimited illicit drugs for those that want them, pornography in schools and libraries, radioactive material in every garage... am I missing anything?

All of that would be preferrable to me. No contest.

42 posted on 05/07/2008 7:04:40 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Resolute Conservative
I love you citizens that think everything should be legal damn the consequences.

No, just the things that aren't anyone else's damn business. What someone chooses to put into their own body is one of those things.

They call that anarchy.

No, they call that freedom. Something the neocons kicked out the GOP back window long ago.

The WOD is being fought wrong but it is a necessary war.

No, it is not. It is wrong on every level. It is biologically unnatural, chemically self-contradictory, socially disastrous, ethically incoherent, legally unsupported, intellectually absurd and morally bankrupt. There is not the slightest shred of evidence that it is any good, and every bit of evidence that it is not. There is only one reason to see it as workable anymore, and that is willful ignorance. And there is no place for patience left for the willfully ignorant any longer.

"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." - Ronald Reagan

43 posted on 05/07/2008 7:32:12 PM PDT by pupdog
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To: pupdog

“What someone chooses to put into their own body is one of those things.”

If they stayed home you are right, but they don’t. They go drive, they break into my house, they assault our wives and daughters ( and sons ), they drag down the productivity of a system that has to use illegal aliens as a labor force because they cannot get to work, they get high and get pregnant and we pay for all their babies... Shall I continue in your perfect scenario?


44 posted on 05/08/2008 6:57:47 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Eagle Eye

Ah the name calling in light of listening to an opinion and having a civil debate ( a liberal characteristic ). Shall I stoop to your level of inadequacy and insecurity... as much as I’d like to no.


45 posted on 05/08/2008 7:01:56 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative
they break into my house, they assault our wives and daughters

Breaking and entering and assault are crimes, regardless whether the person is high, drunk, or sober. Prosecute them for breaking those laws.

they drag down the productivity of a system

People who play video games drag down productivity. So do slouches who drink beer and watch NASCAR all day long. We should enact laws against unproductive activity?

46 posted on 05/08/2008 8:55:36 AM PDT by bird4four4 (Behead those who suggest Islam is violent!)
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To: bird4four4

Okay libertines, live in your dream world.


47 posted on 05/08/2008 9:22:08 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

Get off your high horse you idiot.

Equating drug legalization to having radioactive material in every household is idiotic.

Several of your posts were idiotic revealing idiotic opinions and idiotic thought processes.

The logical conclusion is that you are an idiot.

But I’ve often been accused of stating the obvious.


48 posted on 05/08/2008 1:05:09 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (I'm a RINO cuz I'm too conservative to be a Republican. McCain is the Conservatives true litmus test)
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To: Eagle Eye

You are an arse. I am what I am by your opinion you are what you are by birth.

If all you have to do is call names then don’t post to me sonny.


49 posted on 05/08/2008 2:52:33 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative
If they stayed home you are right

OK, great. I'm glad that you agree then that breaking into someone's home to arrest someone for using is out of the question.

but they don’t.

Shall I continue in your perfect scenario?

No, it's your scenario that's "perfect". It's perfectly idealized to your sky-is-falling necessities. The truth is that, like alchohol, most people who use illegal susbtances do stay in their own home. And most of those who wander out of it don't commit any crimes of aggression.

Do some? Of course. So do some alchoholics (probably more in proportion than other drugs, I'd say). Do we bring back prohibition?

You're recycling tired, long disproven excuses to find some vain justification to control something that is not your slighest concern. If you want justification for governmental action, let me suggest one that once-upon-a-time this country believed in. It's called "habeas corpus". Instead of falling back on cartoonish Reefer Madness scare tactics, prove that someone, individually, is a threat.

Until you do, what someone chooses to put into their body remains none of your damn business. And, unless you can show me the justification in the Constitution (take as long as you want), none of the federal government's, either.

50 posted on 05/08/2008 2:58:32 PM PDT by pupdog
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FTA: They kept this neighbor in his home, and questioned him for at least four hours, refusing to let the man's wife come home, of for other people to see him. When the police finished intimidating the man, they told him specifically that 'he did not see what he thought he saw.' The neighbor is now afraid to talk to the media." I have not yet been able to speak with the neighbor.

Maybe the people who could have helped him suddenly had better things to do? Like: not spend hours with the cops themselves?

51 posted on 05/08/2008 2:58:50 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: Resolute Conservative
Okay libertines, live in your dream world.

If it wasn't for people like you deliberately shutting your mind to the blatant errors in your thought processes and foisting those errors onto my existence, I could.

Seriously, if you want so badly to have nothing to do with our "dream world", so do I. You live in your control-freak area, I live in my freedom area, and we call it even. I'm all for it. States' rights would be a great way to help see this happen. So you for it, or are you all talk?

52 posted on 05/08/2008 3:02:48 PM PDT by pupdog
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