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Senate backs 'urban legend'
The Press-Register ^ | May 6, 2008 | Brian Lyman

Posted on 05/07/2008 5:44:43 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

MONTGOMERY The state Senate may have been locked down for most of the year, but it did find time to endorse a widely discredited urban legend spread by the John Birch Society.

The upper chamber passed a joint resolution April 10 sponsored by state Sen. Rusty Glover, R-Semmes, claiming that Canada, Mexico and the United States are moving toward a "North American Union" and working on construction of a "NAFTA Superhighway" to link the countries and report edly destroy their sovereignty.

"It's about retaining independence," said John McManus, the president of the John Birch Society, in a phone interview Mon day. "If we merge with Canada and Mexico, we are no longer an independent nation."

The John Birch Society is a far-right-wing organization established in 1958 as a hardline anti-communist group. Its founder, Robert Welch, once called President Dwight Eisenhower "a dedicated agent of the Communist conspiracy." The group has often warned of alleged threats to U.S. liberty and sovereignty, and has historically opposed the United Nations as a sign of a world government.

In the case of the purported North American Union, the society has circulated model resolutions for introduction in state legislatures and assemblies. Glover's resolution incorporates one paragraph from the John Birch Society resolution verbatim.

Experts from the White House to snopes.com, a popular urban legend Web site, say no such union is in the offing. The 2005 Security and Prosperity Partnership, often cited by conspiracists as proof of the plans afoot, is an agreement between the three countries to cooperate on issues of common concern, from energy security to health-related issues.

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1 posted on 05/07/2008 5:44:43 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The conservative movement will never get back on track if the conspiracy-mongering lunatic fringe captures the party the way it did in 1964.

We need another Reagan, not another Goldwater.

2 posted on 05/07/2008 5:46:32 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

In before the link to CFR!


3 posted on 05/07/2008 5:47:24 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

In before the Masonic Conspiracy theorists!


4 posted on 05/07/2008 5:49:10 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (I follow the Last Time Lord)
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To: wideawake

In the new, improved, updated “Chinese Zodiac”, this is The Year of the Loon.


5 posted on 05/07/2008 5:51:09 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: CholeraJoe

Don’t forget the link to the Illuminati!


6 posted on 05/07/2008 5:51:13 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I wish posters would put the state in the title.
There are many Montgomerys.

That to the side, who cares if they do this?
If it is, as most here believe, all an urban myth, then no harm to affirm that we don't want America to be part of an American/Mexican union, unlike McCain's hispanic outreach director.

7 posted on 05/07/2008 5:52:31 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: wideawake
We need another Reagan, not another Goldwater.

"Extremism in the pursuit of liberty -- hell, lifting a finger in the pursuit of liberty -- is a vice." --the motto of modern "conservatism"

8 posted on 05/07/2008 5:54:18 AM PDT by steve-b (The "intelligent design" hoax is not merely anti-science; it is anti-civilization. --John Derbyshire)
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To: 1rudeboy; CholeraJoe; ArrogantBustard; Ken522

You’re all wrong!!!

It’s the Shapeshifting Reptilian Aliens, come to drink our blood!

(Enter David Ickes, stage faaaar left.)


9 posted on 05/07/2008 5:55:25 AM PDT by shibumi (".....panta en pasin....." - Origen)
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To: All

There is no such thing as the North American Super Corridor;

http://www.nascocorridor.com/default.asp


10 posted on 05/07/2008 5:58:18 AM PDT by RDasher
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The JBS did accurately nail Fidel before anyone else did and that’s their claim to fame. Also John Stormer’s None Dare Call It Treason came across as pretty reasonable not some wild-eyed fanaticism; I found it very infuential.


11 posted on 05/07/2008 6:01:16 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: wideawake
Do you really doubt that there is an effort under way to increase trade and travel between Mexico, the US, and Canada, in part to offset the economic damage done to us by the EU?

While there may not be a bunch of top-hatted executives and politicians in smoky back rooms planning a new nation of the three, open borders are tantamount to an EU.

Allowing Mexican truckers into the US without having to abide by US rules and regulations is one step in that direction. Amnesty is another. Loosening of “guest worker” regulations is another.

This isn't a conspiracy theory. It isn't even a theory. This is happening.

12 posted on 05/07/2008 6:02:24 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: steve-b
"Extremism in the pursuit of liberty -- hell, lifting a finger in the pursuit of liberty -- is a vice." --the motto of modern "conservatism"

Inventing conspiracy theories contributes absolutely nothing to the defense of liberty.

I would also argue that endorsing Gerald Ford over Ronald Reagan in 1976 - as Goldwater did - contributed absolutely nothing to the defense of liberty either.

Goldwater, McManus, Paul and the rest of their ilk = big talkers, small doers.

13 posted on 05/07/2008 6:02:50 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: RDasher
I've always been amused by that line-of-thinking: imagine someone who says there's no NASC, then point to NASCO's own website to disprove it.

As far as being the stuff of which conspiracy theories are made, it's not even that creative.

14 posted on 05/07/2008 6:04:59 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Allowing Mexican truckers into the US without having to abide by US rules and regulations is one step in that direction.

Are you the guy who told us Mexican trucks have no brakes?

15 posted on 05/07/2008 6:06:02 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Don’t forget the Trilateral Commission ...they are behind everything. (satire)


16 posted on 05/07/2008 6:07:22 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Ken522
Don’t forget the link to the Illuminati!

Got it covered!

17 posted on 05/07/2008 6:11:20 AM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: The Great RJ
Don’t forget the Trilateral Commission ...they are behind everything. (satire)

Nope, that's the Bildeberger's... if you are going to have an all powerful, global conspiracy, at least get it right! :-)

18 posted on 05/07/2008 6:12:32 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"It's a just-in-case-type of thing," Glover said. "If (Congress) had any thoughts, we're urging them not to."

Someone (s) went to a lot of trouble with maps etc. for a non-event.

19 posted on 05/07/2008 6:13:29 AM PDT by yoe ( Socialism with Obama or Clinton - Democracy with McCain)
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To: Chi-townChief
Also John Stormer’s None Dare Call It Treason

Gary Allen's "None Dare Call It Conspiracy" was on the money when I read it circa 1980, and was a great counterbalance to the what I was being fed in my education and through the media.

20 posted on 05/07/2008 6:14:36 AM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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