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Good for the students!

A previous FR post on this was http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2009596/posts .

Richard Vedder's take is at http://collegeaffordability.blogspot.com/2008/05/suing-students.html .

1 posted on 05/06/2008 7:45:49 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1
an Ivy League professor threatening to sue her students because, she claims, their "anti-intellectualism" violated her civil rights.

Oh, for the LOVE!

2 posted on 05/06/2008 7:47:24 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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“They’d argue with your ideas.”

Ah, poor baby.... Maybe some people are buying this load of crap, especially after spending a fortunr for it.


5 posted on 05/06/2008 7:50:23 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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I once wrote a term paper for a lit-crit course where I "deconstructed" the MTV program "Pimp My Ride." A typical passage: "Each episode is a text of inescapable complexity . . . Our received notions of what constitutes a ride are constantly subverted and undermined." It received an A.

That there is funny, I don't care who you are.

7 posted on 05/06/2008 7:52:02 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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“Scientific facts do not correspond to a natural reality but conform to a social construct.”

Everything is a “social construct” these days. Even facts.


8 posted on 05/06/2008 7:52:41 AM PDT by hepatoma
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"Scientific facts do not correspond to a natural reality but conform to a social construct."

LOL! If I had been in her class she'd have to sue me too.

9 posted on 05/06/2008 7:54:01 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: reaganaut1

You know, these colleges want “anti-establishment” kids, they got exactly what they want. They’re rebelling against the current establishment.


12 posted on 05/06/2008 7:59:09 AM PDT by McKayopectate
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I cannot believe this is being taken seriously. We are a society of Candy A$$es.


15 posted on 05/06/2008 8:01:49 AM PDT by Sprite518
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She continues: "Scientific facts do not correspond to a natural reality but conform to a social construct."

Of all the pernicious nonsense taught in our colleges these days, this kind of stuff is the very worst. I sure as hell won't pay $40,000 a year so my kids can have their minds poisoned by these lotus eaters. They'll study hard science, engineering, or architecture.

We need to get rid of tenure and mount a thorough purge of the academy.

-ccm

16 posted on 05/06/2008 8:03:07 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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"They'd argue with your ideas."

One would think a University professor of english would have mastered the principle of subject and verb agreement. She probably meant to say that They'd argue with my ideas. What a shame that she expected to go unchallenged in an environment supposedly established to nurture the ability to defend one's arguments.

17 posted on 05/06/2008 8:05:27 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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She was supposed to be teaching writing, and instead she considers it appropriate to barrage students with her nonsense about “social constructs” of reality. No wonder the students were disgusted - they should be suing her for educational malpractice.

This “social construct” b.s. simply will not go away. Academia has all these incompetents running around babbling worthless inanities about “social text” and “social constructs” — and when they are attempting to talk about the sciences they rarely have the slightest idea what they are trying to say.

Let’s go back to the famous “Social Text” affair in 1996, when an article replete with nonsense was published in a supposedly leading journal, because the editors could not tell the difference between sense and nonsense when it came to talking about science:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affair

The Sokal affair (also Sokal’s hoax) was a hoax by physicist Alan Sokal perpetrated on the editorial staff and readership of the postmodern cultural studies journal Social Text (published by Duke University). In 1996, Sokal, a professor of physics at New York University, submitted a paper of nonsense camouflaged in jargon for publication in Social Text, as an experiment to see if a journal in that field would, in Sokal’s words: “publish an article liberally salted with nonsense if (a) it sounded good and (b) it flattered the editors’ ideological preconceptions.”[1]

The paper, titled “Transgressing the Boundaries: Towards a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity”[2], was published in the Spring/Summer 1996 “Science Wars” issue of Social Text, which at that time had no peer review process, and so did not submit it for outside review. On the day of its publication, Sokal announced in another publication, Lingua Franca, that the article was a hoax, calling his paper “a pastiche of left-wing cant, fawning references, grandiose quotations, and outright nonsense”, which was “structured around the silliest quotations I could find about mathematics and physics” made by postmodernist academics.

http://www.physics.nyu.edu/faculty/sokal/


18 posted on 05/06/2008 8:05:41 AM PDT by Enchante (Obama: My 1930s Foreign Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Social Policy!)
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I teach college. Argumentative students come with the territory. If a student argues with something I said, it’s for one of three reasons:

(a) I made a mistake
(b) He doesn’t understand what I’m saying or
(c) He is being a smartass

for which I have the following solutions

If it’s (a) Fix my mistake and thank the student
If it’s (b) Look for the source of the student’s misunderstanding and address that
If it’s (c) Use my rapier-like wit to deliver a stinging comeback and warn him not to try to be a bigger smartass (though in class I usually say smart-aleck) than I am.

Note that having a tantrum and filing a lawsuit do not appear on my list of solutions.


19 posted on 05/06/2008 8:11:54 AM PDT by murdoog
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‘Unreceptive of French narrative theory’? The students and their parents should countersue both Venkatesan and Dartmouth for fraud. They were paying for an education.


21 posted on 05/06/2008 8:15:18 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: reaganaut1

Typical EuroCommie Trash.


23 posted on 05/06/2008 8:23:34 AM PDT by DGHoodini ("I never did believe you much, anyway...")
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"Scientific facts do not correspond to a natural reality but conform to a social construct."

Looks like she's correct on that point.

A lot of things people think are scientific 'facts' are nothing more that popular belief.

25 posted on 05/06/2008 8:35:46 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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The remarkable thing about the Venkatesan affair, to me, is that her students cared enough to argue. Normally they would express their boredom with the material by answering emails on their laptops or falling asleep. But here they staged a rebellion, a French Counter-Revolution against Professor Defarge. Maybe, despite the professor's best efforts, there's life in American colleges yet.

LOL!

26 posted on 05/06/2008 8:45:45 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Curtis Blackwood for State Rep! Jeff Gerber for County Commissioner! Vote early and often!)
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Federal Rules of Civil Procedure - Rule 11

Rule 11(c), specifically.

29 posted on 05/06/2008 9:19:51 AM PDT by Arguendo
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China produces engineers and mathematicians. We produce lawyers and “French narrative” theorists.


32 posted on 05/06/2008 10:34:11 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

It ain’t Cornell, but you might enjoy this article anyway. It was sent to me (for laughs) by a doctoral candidate at a top university.


35 posted on 05/07/2008 10:47:28 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter. --WChurchill)
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