The Translator Scandal Ripens

New English Review ^ | May 2008 | Jerry Gordon

[forkinsocket]

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[null and void]

How is this different than our hiring known Nazis to translate German documents during WWII?

[goldstategop]

The Feds won't hire Jews and Christian Arabs who speak Arabic and who are loyal to America as translators. But they will hire Muslim extremists who sabotage America at every turn. Its beyond absurd - no its treasonous. PC will be the death of America.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[r9etb]

For over a year, we have been waging a relentless, nearly solitary battle in apprising the Congress and the American public about a billion dollar boondoggle and scandal: the lack of credible Arabic translators for our national security and intelligence agencies. As a result hundreds have been killed in Iraq from infiltration of our military and civilian intelligence agencies by agents of Islamist terrorists.

I stopped reading after this highly questionable assertion.

[Lancey Howard]

(( ping ))

[forkinsocket]

Ping.

[Diogenesis]

The Feds won't hire Jews and Christian Arabs who speak Arabic and who are loyal to America as translators.

Treason at the State Department: A Whistleblower's Story

"The UK’s Sunday Times recently broke the story of an FBI whistleblower kept
from speaking publicly about a State Department official suspected of selling nuclear secrets.
Annie Jacobsen digs a bit deeper into this shadowy tale and wonders why
American media outlets have greeted the revelations with stunning silence.

Two weeks ago, the London Sunday Times broke an exclusive story about
FBI translator-turned-whistleblower Sibel Edmonds.
For five years, the U.S. government has prevented Edmonds from speaking publicly
on what she knows, claiming State Secrets Privilege. The Times got the exclusive
on the story, eerily titled “For Sale: West’s Deadly Nuclear Secrets,”
by talking to a number of Edmonds’ close associates who were not under a gag order,
and by filling in pieces of the puzzle from Sibel Edmonds herself.

According the Times article, the U.S. government sought to gag Edmonds
from revealing that corrupt government officials — specifically,
State Department official Marc Grossman — were directly involved in the stealing and selling
of nuclear secrets to foreign agents. In her role as translator, Edmonds listened in on,
or translated, hundreds of secretly intercepted conversations
between State Department officials and foreign nationals from 1996 to 2002."

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[Popman]

bookmarked.............not enough “Tums” in the house to read the article yet

[pgkdan]

PC will be the death of America.

Yep...that's the idea. Literally.

[khnyny]

BIG bookmark for later read.

Let’s not all forget about Nada Nadim Prouty (FBI/CIA) and her husband Gordon Prouty who worked/works for the State Department. (rolls eyes in disgust)

[lentulusgracchus]

However, the U.S. government has long known that the results of polygraph tests administered to Middle Easterners, Muslims in particular, can be seriously flawed. The reason, frankly, is that for a host of cultural and religious reasons, lying does not stress Middle Easterners and Muslims as much as it does Western Christians. This allows them to defeat polygraph tests.

<liberal whine> Stereotype! Stereotype! "Rug-merchant" stereotype and slander! Oh, I am SO put out by conservative stereotyping and labeling people!!!!"</whine>

Sometimes, it seems, old cultural stereotypes actually contain information that liberal prigs deny at their peril.

"No, Rainbow, please don't pet the polar bear." "But he's so cuuuuuCRUNCH!!!"

[lentulusgracchus]

How is this different than our hiring known Nazis to translate German documents during WWII?

Because people working with former Nazis knew that they were Nazis.

Because people working with Germans who said that they had never been Nazis or Nazi sympathizers, knew to take their protestations with a box of salt.

Because the Nazi Reich had been defeated and lay prostrate under our shiny jump-boots.

Sample conversation:

"No, Hans, you may not use the special library containing classified information about numerous sources, means, and methods."

[null and void]

HELLO????

We didn't hire Nazis to translate German documents during WWII.

Many Germans, Italians and Japanese Americans spent the war in internment camps, not "working for" their sworn enemy, us. (Not saying that everyone who was interned was an enemy, but during a shootin' war it was prudent to avoid the unnecessary risk).

We haven't always been this stupid!

[Publius6961]

After 9/11, thousands of Christians and Jews who spoke critical languages like Arabic, Farsi, Pashto and Urdu were brushed aside and not considered. The government had been cajoled into thinking only Muslims could speak and interpret Arabic, the “holy language” of Islam.

I refuse to believe that our defense and security services are that stupid.

So what's the explanation?
Let me think...

Surely whoever made that decision can be identified and forced to explain the reasons. And sooner, rather than later.

[Publius6961]

I stopped reading after this highly questionable assertion.

I am not surprised. Your leanings are well known.
Either the existing translators are mostly muslim or they're not. That should be easily enough determined through the FOIA.

[r9etb]

I am not surprised. Your leanings are well known.

LOL!!!! My "leanings?" Oh, my.....

[lentulusgracchus]

Sorry, I thought we were talking about the postwar period, when Reinhard Gehlen went to work for Western intelligence agencies, reactivating what was left of the RSHA stay-behind networks that they had operating behind Soviet lines, and other Germans went to work for various CI orgs.

[null and void]

*blush*

Oh that.

Well, uh, ummmm, the war was over, and uh, errrrrr, we needed those Rocket Scientists and, well, uh, the Soviets were doing it, and...

[null and void]

Yes, your leanings.

My first thought when I saw your screen name up thread was something like: "I was wondering when our resident islamist apologist would show up"

Of course, I suppose I could have you confused with someone else. I suppose.

[r9etb]

"I was wondering when our resident islamist apologist would show up"

What an asinine accusation. I once thought you had a brain. Guess I was wrong.