Posted on 05/05/2008 2:10:49 PM PDT by rhema
What a beautiful thing! I am unashamedly tearing up here.
It's just a TV show. House is a fictional character who happens to be an asshole. That's part of his appeal.
"South Park" did a recent episode in which Cartman tries to persuade a pregnant Mexican girl to get an abortion, "just cheat that little critter in your belly out of life."
Clancy is full of it; a self-promoter with a persecution complex. The text on his website is mainly about his efforts to make money off his picture and whining about how Bruner’s differing description of the event ruined his photojournalism career. In the close-up pictures, it looks to me as if Bruner is just lifting the baby’s hand with his finger; no sign of gripping, even though reflexive gripping may well be normal at this stage of development. The baby’s hand is partially open at first, then closes most of the way; babies do that all the time with their hands, without any object to touch or grip. Every mother knows that babies are moving their limbs at this stage of pregnancy, and it little surprise that a limb would find it’s way out of a surgical incision in the uterus. And little surprise that a surgeon would put a finger under the little hand and gently lift it to have a look at it.
Bruner now works at a high risk perinatology center affiliated with Fort Sanders Regional Medical Center in Knoxville. OB/GYNs who handle high risk pregnancies are frequent targets of lawsuits and threatened lawsuits, and it’s standard practice for their attorneys and malpractice insurers to advise them not to publicly discuss pending or threatened legal actions (and in the case of insurers, it would be a condition of continued coverage). It’s also standard practice for hospitals (and many other types of employers) to prohibit employees from discussing controversial matters. With Clancy howling about how Bruner ruined his journalism career, it’s hardly surprising that Clancy would be under instructions from various parties not to discuss the matter.
Bruner has made a career of performing very innovative and risky surgery, in an attempt to help babies who have gotten off to a very bad start in life, even before birth. Some idiot photographer claiming to be on a mission from God, trying to sensationalize Bruner’s work as some sort of political bombshell, and trying to make money out of it too, is just disgusting. From his own website: “I have become obsessed with proving to the world that I did capture the earliest interaction ever recorded.” Me, me, me, me. And then: “After testifying before the Senate Committee hearing in Sept. 2003. I would not put a congressional inquiry into Samuel’s surgery completely out of the realm of possibility. Film holds multitudes of information.” Delusions of self-importance.
BTTT in honor of my 6 week old grandaughter...
Of course it’s a TV show. Of course it’s fiction, but the point is that a major TV program chose to depict a reenactment of the famous unborn baby reaching out of mother’s womb photo shot. It beats the heck out of the all the pandering the TV shows do to draw attention to liberal causes.
He’s actually been here for 10 years now :) and his personality is that of a very curious child.
I can say that I’ve never forgotten the sight of that tiny hand and my belief that it revealed a personality trait even at that very young age.
I used to think that Ayn Rand had it right with the “tabula rasa” idea of babies development, but after Simon came along I realized she hadn’t a clue about babies. Other things, yes.
10 years later we’re still amazed over it - a most unanticipated memory of his babyhood.
Agree- Ayn Rand had an amazing insight and a brilliant ability to express her thoughts, into some very specific areas of human nature. At the same time, she was completely clueless and wilfully ignorant about others. Kind of an idiot-savant phenomenon.
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[Whether he’s self-absorbed or not, he’s raised some questions on his blog site — one’s quoted below — that ought to be answered.]
Janelle,
Thank you for your question. If Dr. Bruner were to admit that Samuel came out from under the anesthesia too soon, every open fetal surgery program in the world would come under scrutiny. Samuel endangered his life, and his mothers life when he reached from the womb. If you look at the surgical opening to the uterus in my picture, to the right above Samuels hand, the opening has perfect edges. The opening is made with an instrument that carterizes as it cuts. It is supposed to be a relatively bloodless procedure. Above Samuels hand to the left, the opening was clearly damaged when Samuel reached out, resulting in the stream of blood. Look at the Life Magazine pic: http://www.life.com/Life/eisies/eisies2000/scienceSingle_blowup.html
Perfect edges.
Dr. Bruner Im sure has endured immeasurable scrutiny because he allowed a newspaper photographer into his operating room in the first place. No other doctor involved in open fetal surgery has allowed media into the surgical suite. This procedure is now under the jurisdiction of the National Institute of Health in what is called the MOMS Clinical Research Trials and absolutely no photographers are allowed to photograph another procedure, ever. And .. very important! No medical personnel involved in Maternal Fetal Surgery to correct spina bifida can give an interview to a member of the media.
Regarding fetal pain: H.R. 25 will soon become law in Louisiana. The law requires abortion practitioners to offer the mother a chance to give the baby anesthesia. It applies to any abortions done after 20 weeks of pregnancy, where studies are conclusive that an abortion baby has the capacity to experience pain.
Samuel did not receive any anesthesia directly for this procedure. What anesthesia he did receive was from his mother being under general anesthesia. I am not a doctor, but as a witness Samuel was under anesthesia and simply came out from under it too soon. I do believe from the way his fist came flying out and flailed back and forth that he was experiencing pain.
I cant address the doctors guilt for performing abortions. Im sure the pro-abortion crowd isnt too happy with him for, again, allowing a photographer into his operating room.
Planned Parenthood's website which amazingly opened right away!
You may want to reconsider your employment situation.
Fiction - and the arts in general - can help change hearts and minds. I get a lot of good response from “A Dream A Lot Like Mine” at http://www.myspace.com/emmettgrayson. There’s a movie-type story tha goes with the whole thing which I hope someday will be made. Give it a click and tell me if you like it.
Liberals love to use “science” to their advantage when it suits them (ex. the scientific “concensus” on global warming). In my discussions with liberals on abortion, I point out that the unborn child’s dna is different than the mother’s DNA and is therefore a separate human being. It is as if God has guided us to discover DNA as a clue on how he created everything and a hint that the unborn child is a separate person. Just “check the DNA”...
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