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McCain: Focus on illegal immigration hurt GOP's image
KSWT/AP ^ | 5/5/08 | staff

Posted on 05/05/2008 10:42:34 AM PDT by pissant

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To: dragnet2

“I need to find a cave and hide.”

No need. The Rep of Panama will welcome you with open arms.

What needs to be done here is to stop all this once and for all. There are 535 crooks plus a pinhead president who mandate through laws that affect 300,000,000 folks. They also spend my money as if we were their personal ATM machines. How is it that these 535 crooks plus 1 pinhead president are telling us what we can’t do with our lives?

Folks, 300,000,000 can take on 535 congresscrooks pulse one pinhead president. Are you ready?

Folks. Something is not right and very sick here when 300,000,000 of us folks let 535 crooks and a pinhead president lead our lives.

Wake Up!!!


81 posted on 05/05/2008 11:56:29 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: pissant
Juan McLame and his other Juan, Hernandez that is, have destroyed any vestige left of a GOP image.

McCain can go to hell and take the stinking GOP with him.

82 posted on 05/05/2008 11:59:30 AM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: pissant

Darn it Juan McCain. I’m really trying hard here to stay in the GOP corner and flip the switch in your name come election day. ...sigh... You really don’t get it though, Juan.


83 posted on 05/05/2008 12:04:03 PM PDT by Velveeta (God BLESS America!)
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To: Sybeck1

This man simply will not learn, will he?

Stopping illegal immigration is a sure-fire winner with THE VOTERS.

Even liberal black values militant bigots can agree that adding latinos hurts their position.


84 posted on 05/05/2008 12:05:22 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: notaliberal

Fuggatabout our image and deport the illegals. Prompt mass deportation of illegals would significantly cut the financial support of these scofflaws. Why can’t the Hispanic community seem to grasp the idea that these illegals are a slap in the face to all the law-abiding immigrants who followed the rules.

The whole party needs to ram the following talking point down the throats of everone who hits us with the “anti-Hispanic” or “Xenophobic” canard - “We welcome legal immigrants who have followed our laws and showed us the common courtesy of diligently learning our language. We would expect to do the same should we immigrate to their country. We prosecute those who scoff at our laws.”


85 posted on 05/05/2008 12:07:30 PM PDT by RochesterFan
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To: RinaseaofDs

McCain has you right where he wants you.

I mean you can’t have Hillary or Obama picking 4 Supreme Court Judges or fighting the WOT can you?

Welcome to the new New World Order!!


86 posted on 05/05/2008 12:09:06 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (It's truly bad when your Savior in November is Judas Himself.)
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To: calcowgirl
“the McCain campaign team announced announced that John McCain will participate in the Annual Convention of La Raza in San Diego on July 14, 2008.”

Hope it gets lot of MSM coverage. I know it will here on FR.

McQueeg is drooling in anticipation of another chance for full amnesty.

87 posted on 05/05/2008 12:09:45 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: pissant
Republican presidential hopeful John McCain says the focus on illegal immigration during the Republican primary season harmed his party's image among Hispanics.

McCain has harmed the GOP image with his stance on immigration, read amnesty. If low income Hispanics are being harmed by illegal immigration, they should be supporting an enforcement position, not amnesty.

88 posted on 05/05/2008 12:10:49 PM PDT by kabar
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To: pissant

What’s hurting the image of the GOP Juan is having you as the nominee.


89 posted on 05/05/2008 12:15:57 PM PDT by Anonymous Rex ( For Rent)
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To: Sybeck1

If McCain can make it until September with his gob shut, he may win.

Instead, once a week he goes out and demonstrates both his ignorance and his complicity with traditional right-wing special interests.

I’m writing in Thompson.


90 posted on 05/05/2008 12:20:08 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day

McCain was the only top tier candidate of either party who couldn’t win the primary in his state with more than 50% of the vote. He received 48% of the vote in AZ. And McCain became the presumptive nominee of the party with only 31% of the primary vote, ie., just prior to the Potomac primary.


91 posted on 05/05/2008 12:21:40 PM PDT by kabar
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To: pissant
McCain says local governments would not have to take on immigration problems had the federal government overhauled the country's immigration policies.

Well, f***ing DUH!
By passing McCain/Kennedy, you make all of the illegals LEGAL and therefore no enforcement is needed - or possible.
Why not just legalize all forms of crime?

That would sure empty the prisons and save billions on enforcement.

92 posted on 05/05/2008 12:23:14 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Something is not right and very sick here when 300,000,000 of us folks let 535 crooks and a pinhead president lead our lives. Wake Up!!!

Not to mention wrecking havoc, causing unbelievable chaos, violence, fraud, crime...The list is endless.

All so a some greedy corporations and business owners can get their cheap labor.

Believe it or not, millions of Americans are wide away to this government sponsored lawlessness.

The corrupt in D.C. just don't give damn, and we've all seen what good voting has done to this country in the past 15 years or so. Even the few that get put in office are quickly corrupted by the machine.

93 posted on 05/05/2008 12:23:37 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: pissant
On the subject of broader immigration policies, McCain says local governments would not have to take on immigration problems had the federal government overhauled the country's immigration policies.

Wrong Senator local governments would not have to take on immigration problems if you and your fellow socialists didn't obstruct enforcing the following immigration law>

Federal Immigration and Nationality Act

Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii) Recruitment and Employment of Illegal Aliens Encouraging and Harboring Illegal Aliens Enforcement RICO —Citizen Recourse Tax Crimes Comment

Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii) "Any person who . . . encourages or induces an illegal alien to . . . reside . . . knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such . . . residence is . . . in violation of law, shall be punished as provided . . . for each illegal alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs . . . fined under title 18 . . . imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."

Section 274 felonies under the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, INA 274A(a)(1)(A):

A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he:

· assists an illegal alien s/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or · encourages that illegal alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or · knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions. ·

Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime. Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his or her work authorization status is guilty of a misdemeanor. Aliens and employers violating immigration laws are subject to arrest, detention, and seizure of their vehicles or property. In addition, individuals or entities who engage in racketeering enterprises that commit (or conspire to commit) immigration-related felonies are subject to private civil suits for treble damages and injunctive relief.

Recruitment and Employment of Illegal Aliens

It is unlawful to hire an alien, to recruit an alien, or to refer an illegal alien for a fee, knowing the illegal alien is unauthorized to work in the United States. It is equally unlawful to continue to employ an illegal alien knowing that the illegal alien is unauthorized to work.

It is unlawful to hire any individual for employment in the United States without complying with employment eligibility verification requirements. Requirements include examination of identity documents and completion of Form I-9 for every employee hired. Employers must retain all I-9s, and, with three days' advance notice, the forms must be made available for inspection. Employment includes any service or labor performed for any type of remuneration within the United States, with the exception of sporadic domestic service by an individual in a private home. "Day laborers" or other casual workers engaged in any compensated activity (with the above exception) are employees for purposes of immigration law. An employer includes an agent or anyone acting directly or indirectly in the interest of the employer. For purposes of verification of authorization to work, employer also means an independent contractor, or a contractor other than the person using the illegal alien labor.

The use of temporary or short-term contracts cannot be used to circumvent the employment authorization verification requirements. If employment is to be for less than the usual three days allowed for completing the I-9 Form requirement, the form must be completed immediately at the time of hire.

An employer has constructive knowledge that an employee is an illegal unauthorized worker if a reasonable person would infer it from the facts. Constructive knowledge constituting a violation of federal law has been found where (1) the I-9 employment eligibility form has not been properly completed, including supporting documentation, (2) the employer has learned from other individuals, media reports, or any source of information available to the employer that the alien is unauthorized to work, or (3) the employer acts with reckless disregard for the legal consequences of permitting a third party to provide or introduce an illegal alien into the employer's work force. Knowledge cannot be inferred solely on the basis of an individual's accent or foreign appearance.

Actual specific knowledge is not required. For example, a newspaper article stating that ballrooms depend on an illegal alien work force of dance hostesses was held by the courts to be a reasonable ground for suspicion that unlawful conduct had occurred.

It is illegal for nonprofit or religious organizations to knowingly assist an employer to violate employment sanctions, regardless of claims that their convictions require them to assist illegal aliens. Harboring or aiding illegal aliens is not protected by the First Amendment. It is a felony to establish a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of federal immigration law. Violators may be fined or imprisoned for up to five years.

Encouraging and Harboring Illegal Aliens

It is a violation of law for any person to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection in any place, including any building or means of transportation, any illegal alien who is in the United States in violation of law. Harboring means any conduct that tends to substantially facilitate an alien to remain in the U.S. illegally. The sheltering need not be clandestine, and harboring covers aliens arrested outdoors, as well as in a building. This provision includes harboring an alien who entered the U.S. legally but has since lost his legal status.

An employer can be convicted of the felony of harboring illegal aliens who are his employees if he takes actions in reckless disregard of their illegal status, such as ordering them to obtain false documents, altering records, obstructing INS inspections, or taking other actions that facilitate the alien's illegal employment. Any person who within any 12-month period hires ten or more individuals with actual knowledge that they are illegal aliens or unauthorized workers is guilty of felony harboring. It is also a felony to encourage or induce an alien to come to or reside in the U.S. knowing or recklessly disregarding the fact that the alien's entry or residence is in violation of the law. This crime applies to any person, rather than just employers of illegal aliens. Courts have ruled that "encouraging" includes counseling illegal aliens to continue working in the U.S. or assisting them to complete applications with false statements or obvious errors. The fact that the alien is a refugee fleeing persecution is not a defense to this felony, since U.S. law and the UN Protocol on Refugees both require that a refugee must report to immigration authorities without delay upon entry to the U.S.

The penalty for felony harboring is a fine and imprisonment for up to five years. The penalty for felony alien smuggling is a fine and up to ten years' imprisonment. Where the crime causes serious bodily injury or places the life of any person in jeopardy, the penalty is a fine and up to twenty years' imprisonment. If the criminal smuggling or harboring results in the death of any person, the penalty can include life imprisonment. Convictions for aiding, abetting, or conspiracy to commit alien smuggling or harboring, carry the same penalties. Courts can impose consecutive prison sentences for each alien smuggled or harbored. A court may order a convicted smuggler to pay restitution if the illegal alien smuggled qualifies as a victim under the Victim and Witness Protection Act. Conspiracy to commit crimes of sheltering, harboring, or employing illegal aliens is a separate federal offense punishable by a fine of up to $10,000 or five years' imprisonment.

Enforcement

A person or entity having knowledge of a violation or potential violation of employer sanctions provisions may submit a signed written complaint to the INS office with jurisdiction over the business or residence of the potential violator, whether an employer, employee, or agent. The complaint must include the names and addresses of both the complainant and the violator, and detailed factual allegations, including date, time, and place of the potential violation, and the specific conduct alleged to be a violation of employer sanctions. By regulation, the INS will only investigate third-party complaints that have a reasonable probability of validity. Designated INS officers and employees, and all other officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws, may make an arrest for violation of smuggling or harboring illegal aliens.

State and local law enforcement officials have the general power to investigate and arrest violators of federal immigration statutes without prior INS knowledge or approval, as long as they are authorized to do so by state law. There is no extant federal limitation on this authority. The 1996 immigration control legislation passed by Congress was intended to encourage states and local agencies to participate in the process of enforcing federal immigration laws. Immigration officers and local law enforcement officers may detain an individual for a brief warrantless interrogation where circumstances create a reasonable suspicion that the individual is illegally present in the U.S. Specific facts constituting a reasonable suspicion include evasive, nervous, or erratic behavior; dress or speech indicating foreign citizenship; and presence in an area known to contain a concentration of illegal aliens. Hispanic appearance alone is not sufficient. Immigration officers and police must have a valid warrant or valid employer's consent to enter workplaces or residences. Any vehicle used to transport or harbor illegal aliens, or used as a substantial part of an activity that encourages illegal aliens to come to or reside in the U.S. may be seized by an immigration officer and is subject to forfeiture. The forfeiture power covers any conveyances used within the U.S.

RICO —Citizen Recourse

Private persons and entities may initiate civil suits to obtain injunctions and treble damages against enterprises that conspire to or actually violate federal alien smuggling, harboring, or document fraud statutes, under the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO). The pattern of racketeering activity is defined as commission of two or more of the listed crimes. A RICO enterprise can be any individual legal entity, or a group of individuals who are not a legal entity but are associated in fact, and can include nonprofit associations.

Tax Crimes

Employers who aid or abet the preparation of false tax returns by failing to pay income or Social Security taxes for illegal alien employees, or who knowingly make payments using false names or Social Security numbers, are subject to IRS criminal and civil sanctions. U.S. nationals who have suffered intentional discrimination because of citizenship or national origin by an employer with more than three employees may file a complaint within 180 days of the discriminatory act with the Special Counsel for Immigration-Related Unfair Employment Practices, U.S. Department of Justice. In addition to the federal statutes summarized, state laws and local ordinances controlling fair labor practices, workers compensation, zoning, safe housing and rental property, nuisance, licensing, street vending, and solicitations by contractors may also apply to activities that involve illegal aliens.

Comment:

A comment and a published quote by Robert Gaffney, Attorney and County Executive of Suffolk County, LI, NY:

The statutory foundation of United States immigration law has always been the jurisdiction of the federal government, Congress and the federal courts. The preeminent laws concerning the employment of illegal aliens are found in the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. §~ 1101-1503), as amended by the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 CIRCA).

The law states it is a crime to assist an illegal alien who lacks employment authorization by referring him to an employer, or by acting as his or her employer, or as an agent for an employer. 8 U.S.C.S. § 1324a(a)(1)(A) (Lexis 1997). Furthermore, it is unlawful to hire an individual for employment without complying with the employment eligibility requirements for every person hired. 8 U.S.C.S. § 1324a(a)(l)(B) (Lexis 1997). Moreover, conduct tending substantially to facilitate illegal aliens remaining in the United States illegally, where there is knowledge or a reckless disregard of an illegal alien s unlawful status, is a crime, with escalating penalties, encompassed within the provisions of 1324. 8 U.S.C.S. § 1324(a)(l)(A)(iii) (Lexis 1997); United States v. Kim. 193 F-3d 567 (2d Cir. 1999), are considered employees for purposes of immigration law.

It's reprehensible anybody could rationalize voting for this socialist.
94 posted on 05/05/2008 12:24:33 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: ZULU
The Republicans’ Hispanic Delusion Amnesty is not just wrong in principle, it’s bad politics.
95 posted on 05/05/2008 12:26:49 PM PDT by kabar
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To: HappyinAZ

so I’m very close to the immigration problems.

Screw that noise!
I have a home in Pa, deep in the burbs and there are illegals walking down the freaking streets at night!

You can’t swing a dead cat at a construction site without hitting some mexican who does not know that you don’t sh*t in the paint cans.


96 posted on 05/05/2008 12:27:16 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: Shermy
“Is it just me or is McCain purposely trying to throw this election?”

McCain is just showing his true socialist colors. Unfortunately may choose to put on the blinders and pretend he is a viable candidate.
97 posted on 05/05/2008 12:27:41 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: blackie
McAmnesty is really out of touch!!

He's in touch with socialists.
98 posted on 05/05/2008 12:30:51 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: bill1952

Well I certainly don’t doubt that...but few can argue with the % we have here in AZ...if they’re illegal;I want them to go home...simple as that....and we’re making some progress with the AZ requirement that they check Social Security Numbers against the Feds’ data bank....or lose their business license. Other States need to adopt the same law!


99 posted on 05/05/2008 12:36:34 PM PDT by HappyinAZ
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To: kabar; AuntB; Kimberly GG; Travis McGee; bcsco; Liz
McCain has only done and continues to do, the President's bidding regarding illegal immigration/amnesty.

The Republican 'base' is in such a funk/depression over this outright betrayal, we're just rolling over and waiting for the final blow...

..not unlike William Wallace when he found out it was Robert the Bruce hiding behind that armor.

Recently, our Orlando Sentinel newspaper had this to say...

(Legislature 2008)...Florida highly active on immigration

..but as you read on it says, 'a report puts the state in the top 21 for bills proposed, but change likely isn't imminent...and

'Most of the Florida bills....ranging from those requiring employers to check the status of workers to others that seek increased cooperation between local law enforcement and federal immigration agencies....have stalled'

...Bottom line..."I would never want to estimate or predict, but generally speaking, bills that are in committee, the chances are not very good that they will get a hearing?(says spokeswoman for House Speaker Marco Rubio)

So there you have it folks...

Nothing's getting done, nothing's going to be done...

Because...

....they know....

Our President doesn't want it to happen...

The 3 candidates doesn't want it to happen..

..So time is on their side.

100 posted on 05/05/2008 12:37:04 PM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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