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Evidence Of Iranian Involvement In Iraq Mounts And Is Expansive
Strata Sphere ^ | Monday, May 5th, 2008 at 9:39 am | AJStrata

Posted on 05/05/2008 8:56:56 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

The evidence of Iran’s military involvement in Iraq is growing rapidly as US and Iraqi forces take out the Mahdi Militia fighters. This evidence is bringing the situation between Iran and the US to a head, because the US cannot allow any nation to target its troops without responding with swift and deadly action. Otherwise it is open season on Americans around the world. If we don’t take action when our troops are killed then it means we are too weak-kneed to take action when any American is the target of foreign state aggression.

Michael Gordon of the NY Times notes today the Iran has allowed military training camps to be set up near Tehran where Iraqi militia fighters are trained by Hezbollah trainers (trained by Iranians originally, of course):

Militants from the Lebanese group Hezbollah have been training Iraqi militia fighters at a camp near Tehran, according to American interrogation reports that the United States has supplied to the Iraqi government.

An American official said the account of Hezbollah’s role was provided by four Shiite militia members who were captured in Iraq late last year and questioned separately.

The United States has long charged that the Iranians were training Iraqi militia fighters in Iran, which Iran has consistently denied, and there have been previous reports about Hezbollah operatives in Iraq.

But the Americans say the reports of Hezbollah’s role at the Iranian camp offer important details about Iranian assistance to the militias, including efforts Iran appears to be making to train the fighters in unobtrusive ways.

The thing to take away from this snippet is someone is running a military training camp outside Tehran. Here in the US we arrested people for attempting to perform military training using paintball guns

(Excerpt) Read more at strata-sphere.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: basra; iran; iraq; mahdiarmy; sadr; sadrcity
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1 posted on 05/05/2008 9:07:09 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: NormsRevenge; elhombrelibre; Allegra; SandRat; tobyhill; G8 Diplomat; Dog; Cap Huff; ...
Lengthy article with Links to MSM articles.....

The closing....

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There is no need to debate anymore. We can allow Iraq and Iran one final opportunity to fix this - and that would require exposing all the terrorists Iran trained and armed in Iraq so they can be rounded up and dealt with. But only an act clear and obvious like this would suffice at this stage. Iran has been caught lying to the international community’s face while dealing death behind the scenes. They do not deserve any leniency or good faith or any more time to stall. Take action now or receive some action very soon.

2 posted on 05/05/2008 9:12:40 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We should sell a few of our best missles to Iraq, and let the Iraqi military target and take out the terror camps in Iran.

Iran is promoting a war against Iraq, so Iraq should be able to respond.

If Iran launches a full-scale attack based on Iraqi responses, then we can jump in under protection agreements.


3 posted on 05/05/2008 9:13:08 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Only a matter of time before we turn Iran into glass.....


4 posted on 05/05/2008 9:15:04 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: All
A more direct or obvious link to the LA Times interview with Hakim's son in Tehran:

IRAN: Hakim's son on Tehran, Baghdad, Washington tangle

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For nearly three decades, one of Iraq’s most powerful Shiite Muslim families and Washington’s closest partner in the Iraqi government has maintained strong ties with the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Mohsenhakim Abdelaziz Hakim, leader of the Supreme Iraqi Islamic Council, or SIIC, and a relatively moderate Shiite leader who is a key player in his country, plays a tricky balancing act, maintaining cordial ties with both the U.S. and Iran at a time of unprecedented international tension between the two longtime rivals.

The troubles came to a boil this weekend as the Iraqi government dispatched a team to Tehran to discuss U.S. allegations that Iran is smuggling weapons to Iraqi militants.

One of Hakim’s sons, Mohsen Hakim, oversees his party’s downtown Tehran office. Over tea and fruit Saturday, the younger Hakim, 34, spoke for half an hour with the Los Angeles Times in an illuminating interview about the troubled relations among Iran, Iraq and the U.S. and how they roil the entire region, from Afghanistan to Lebanon.

"The Iraqi security issue is not separated from other issues in the Middle East," he said. "On the whole, security in the region is not divisible. If there is no security in Iraq , there is no security anywhere in the region. We look at the security of Iraq as a organic security package for the whole region."

The whole interview is transcribed below.

LOS ANGELES TIMES: What is SIIC’s attitude toward the accusations of increased Iranian involvement in violence in Iraq?

****************See the Link for the Interview....

**************************My Comments*****************

The troubles came to a boil this weekend as the Iraqi government dispatched a team to Tehran to discuss U.S. allegations that Iran is smuggling weapons to Iraqi militants.

LA Times is spinning... that Iraq is investigating the US Allegations...

In fact we have a thread here: Iraq Says It Has Proof Of Iranian Meddling: Tehran Funneling Weapons

And it's from the Washington Post.....

5 posted on 05/05/2008 9:25:57 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This is a big test for Iraq's leadership.

Do it right, Iraq. We're right behind you.

And you won't get a second chance.

6 posted on 05/05/2008 9:29:49 AM PDT by Allegra (Tehran delenda est)
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To: All
Another FR Thread:

Hezbollah Trains Iraqis In Iran, Officials Say

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BAGHDAD: Militants from the Lebanese group Hezbollah have been training Iraqi militia fighters at a camp near Tehran, according to American interrogation reports that the United States has supplied to the Iraqi government.

An American official said the account of Hezbollah's role was provided by four Shiite militia members who were captured in Iraq late last year and questioned separately.

7 posted on 05/05/2008 9:30:17 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hopefully, our two carriers in the Persian Gulf will be busy.


8 posted on 05/05/2008 9:30:39 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: jveritas; FARS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; knighthawk; Marine_Uncle; SandRat; Steel Wolf; CAP; ...

Thanks for the ping, Ernest. “Blood on their hands” ping.


9 posted on 05/05/2008 9:34:46 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (If you share Wright's pews, you share his views.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Here in the US we arrested people for attempting to perform military training using paintball guns" [excerpt]

We do?

Surly there is more to it than that.
10 posted on 05/05/2008 9:40:50 AM PDT by Fichori (FreeRepublic.com: Watch your step!)
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To: elhombrelibre
Iran is involved in shipping arms into Iran?

Who woulda thunk it?

11 posted on 05/05/2008 9:41:49 AM PDT by rlmorel (Clinging bitterly to Guns and God in Massachusetts...:)
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To: elhombrelibre
BUMP!

free dixie,sw

12 posted on 05/05/2008 9:48:24 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to TYRANTS is OBEDIENCE to God. T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Doesn’t matter, Bush has been beaten into submission, no more wars and the dems are waiting for Iran to nuke their respective home towns before they say anything. I guess if they bomb Tel Aviv, Clinton would do something.


13 posted on 05/05/2008 9:50:39 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Take action now or receive some action very soon.

The water is starting to boil. I'm really hoping we decide to finally vent the steam on Iran.

14 posted on 05/05/2008 10:17:12 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: purpleraine

You are mistaken if you think Bush is beaten into submission over the Iran issue. The proof that the Mainstream media/Dems/Europeans arrogantly demand has been paid for in American blood - But proof we have and with proof, Bush will act.


15 posted on 05/05/2008 10:21:07 AM PDT by steel_resolve (Operation Chaos is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There have always been Iraqi Shi’ites who are traitors for Iran, dating back to ancient times. This is going to be an ongoing problem that needs to be dealt with.


16 posted on 05/05/2008 10:29:53 AM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: jeffers; Dog; Cap Huff; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; maquiladora; GSR-TX; Aragon

ping


17 posted on 05/05/2008 11:30:42 AM PDT by jhpigott
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To: steel_resolve

When Bush wakes up, give me a call.


18 posted on 05/05/2008 12:07:26 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: purpleraine; All; 1035rep; 1curiousmind; 4woodenboats; 2ndDivisionVet; 5Madman2; 68skylark; ...

One source of Iraqi traitors we all forget are the thousands of Iraqi prisoners captured by Iran in the 8-year Iran-Iraq war who were never repatriated.

Instead these true Iraqi nationals were kept for the next couple of decades in Iran, brainwashed and trained to become pro-Iran agents and pronised to be sent back to their families in Iraq if they agreed to work for Iran.

Quite a large labor pool of hard to spot traitors and infiltrators. Iran has paymasters scattered around Iraq who pay these (and other) free lancers a monthly stipend, including regular bribes to Iraqi government and military officials.

Hard to weed out these home grown implants.


19 posted on 05/05/2008 12:44:46 PM PDT by FARS (Good Thoughts (lead to ) Good Words (which combine into) Good Deeds)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


20 posted on 05/05/2008 12:50:44 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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