Calgary woman becoming priest

Calgary Herald ^ | May 4, 2008 | Graeme Morton

[fanfan]

It’s OK.
We all make mistakes.

I’m off for the night too, but I look forward to discussing this tomorrow.

:-)

[Gumdrop]

Not possible. She is attempting to become a priest, but it is an impossible feat.

[Notwithstanding]

Where did you get the idea that ordination has anything to do with being “good enough”?

No person is good enough for the office.
Certainly no man is.
But only men are called.

Its not about “what I want to do”, but rather about what God wants to do.

And if you choose to be Catholic, the Catholic Church clearly teaches that God does not call women to be ordained, and that such a reality has nothing to do with the dignity or worth of women, but rather it has to do with the reality that Jesus was male. And men and women are different by design, and that difference has significance.

We can all ask God for an explanation on the other side.

[Lilllabettt]

Fundamental here is the idea that God wants men and women to bring people to God in different ways. This is bound up in the mystery of life, our bodies, all of that.

What is a priest? A priest is someone who walks the earth as "another Christ." As such, he is a prime target for Satan. He is expected to do mortal combat, far more often than other human beings. He must be willing to be brutalized, butchered, mistreated, crucified body and soul.

God decided that women should not be "risked" this way. This is not an insult, or an implication that women are weaklings who "can't take it." Women are high value targets. Souls of new people are actually infused within their bodies.

Remember Eden and the apple? If women fall, mankind falls. Woman is a precious creature to be protected and defended by ... man.

I am searching for an appropriate metaphor for what I'm talking about. Lets say the Louvre is under siege. You're short on armor, and you have to use some artwork to keep the mob at bay. Would you use the Mona Lisa as a shield? All the paintings in the Louvre are priceless, but would you pick the Mona Lisa? Or would you rather risk sacrificing all of the other paintings in the whole museum, than put the Mona Lisa on the front lines?

[arthurus]

She may be some sort of priest but she will not be a Roman Catholic priest of any sort.

[arthurus]

ittle girls playing dressup.

[A.A. Cunningham]

I would imagine that any Biblical Christian would pretty much shrug at this.

Only those who aren't cognizant of the distinction between the common priesthood of the believer and the Ministerial Priesthood of the ordained.

[A.A. Cunningham]

If you're truly looking to learn something and not simply trying to stir the pot, read the following.

ORDINATIO SACERDOTALIS

[marshmallow]

From the website Roman Catholic Women Priests

"Monica Kilburn-Smith, who currently works as a health care chaplain, holds a Master of Theological Studies degree, a Graduate Diploma in Dance Movement Therapy, and a B.A. in Fine Arts and Journalism. She practices Healing Touch and Reiki and is currently training to be a Spiritual Director. Formerly married and now single, she has two school-age daughters and lives in Calgary, Alberta (Canada). Monica commits herself to creative work in the intersections of spirituality, liturgy and the arts, and the empowering of women to claim their wisdom, beauty and agency as Beloveds of Godde. She can be emailed at gemstones@shaw.ca."

"Dance movement" and "Reiki", eh?

Godde bless her!

[Antoninus]

The media has been full of this crud lately.

Man Pregnant.

Woman ordained Catholic priest.

"Reputable" newspapers really are no different than the Weekly World News.

[Antoninus]

The Christians on FR say that God created, and loves, each and every one of us, and yet, at the same time women aren't good enough to lead God's flock?

Name a single female apostle.

The notion of women "priests" springs from the poisonous feminist proposition that men and women are the same and there is no difference between them. This proposition is false. Men and women have roles in life suited to their natures and it is pure folly for our society to ignore this fact.

It's this kind of thinking that gets people killed because a female firefighter can't carry an unconsious person out of a burning building.

The Catholic priesthood is male. That said, women have a vital role in the Church, beginning with the Blessed Mother herself and extending down through history to phenomenally blessed and successful Catholic women religious like Mother Teresa and Mother Angelica.

Yet unlike Mother Teresa and Mother Angelica, these so called "women priest" have built nothing and lead no one to the Church, but instead have put on a side show to aggrandize themselves. By their fruits shall ye know them.

[Antoninus]

A woman brings another human soul to GOD, but don't you dare call her a Priest. This is important to GOD, WHY?

Catholic women bring souls to God all the time. Indeed, if not for them, there would be no Catholic priests at all. I would argue that the role of mother is as important as that of priest within the Church. But you don't see me going around complaining that I can't be a mother....

[kaehurowing]

Women “priests” killed off the Episcopal church. Mostly lesbians or angry man-hating womyn. It was a short step from there to making sure that the only men who were welcome were homosexual or effeminate. Now a woman priestess who intones prayers to Mother Jesus is the Presiding Bishopess, and the former church is in its final death throes.

[joebuck]

"The 'words' of Jesus were written down as much as what, 40, 50 ,100 years after HIS death?"

The first three Gospels (the synoptic Gospels) were written 25 to 30 years after the Death of Jesus. Further, Jesus specifically said he would give them the Holy Spirit to remember his exact words. The book of 1 Timothy requires that Deacons, Overseerers and Priests shall be men. Sorry he didn't clear it with you first but that's God's rule and he doesn't negotiate.

[joebuck]

"A woman brings another human soul to GOD, but don't you dare call her a Priest."

All Christians are called to bring human souls to God but not all are called to be Priests. Millions of women all over the world bring thousands of sinners to Christ and don't consider their non-priest status a hindrance in this regard.

[Don W]

She is not a priest, she will never be a priest, she and her supporters are quite frankly APOSTATE.

There is no other expression or explanation, these folks have NO respect for canonical law, nor the bible itself.

May God have mercy on their souls. I and my family turn our backs on them.

[BibChr]

Only those who aren't cognizant of the distinction between the common priesthood of the believer and the Ministerial Priesthood of the ordained.

...which was anticipated and proactively responded to in the qualifier "Biblical Christians," and in the second sentence: "Apart from our one Great High Priest (Hebrews 4:14-16), we don't so much have priests as we are priests (1 Peter 2:9)."

[NYer]

The media has been full of this crud lately.

Media, journalists, ad infinitum ... a constant stream of attacks on the Catholic Church. Thank goodness we have this forum where we can gather to discuss the truth and enlighten those who may have been taken in by the MSM.

[Campion]

we don't so much have priests as we are priests (1 Peter 2:9).

We are priests.

We also have priests, more precisely elders (presbyteroi, from which the English word "priest" comes). It's straight from Paul, who went around picking overseers (episcopoi, bishops) in every town, who then picked elders/presbyteroi to serve under them.

[starlifter]

Your points are well taken.

That said, you cannot be a female Roman Catholic priest. There is no such thing. She can call herself whatever she chooses, but it does not make it true.