Posted on 05/04/2008 11:11:00 AM PDT by LJayne
Sure, you vegans thought yourselves so morally pure. But according to the Swiss government, your hands are stained with the chlorophyll of innocent beings.
(Excerpt) Read more at michellemalkin.com ...
LOL! (I think....)
If we are going to give rights to vegetables, doesn’t that put a kibosh on the euthanasia movement? Or is that a case of “those are not the vegetables you are looking for.”
If we are going to give rights to vegetables, doesn’t that put a kibosh on the euthanasia movement? Or is that a case of “those are not the vegetables you are looking for.”
But this wacky debate has been around for long time - including way back when I was a teenage vegetarian. (I became one when I was twelve, but am now a carnivore.)
In fact, it was because I was getting hammered in college by extreme nuts like these Swiss bureaucrats telling me I wasn't pure enough since I ate honey & wasn't sufficiently sensitive the spinach I was tearing into little pieces for my salads which finally convinced me that the heartless Bambi-killers of the world might have had it right all along, lol!
As Bob Grant used to say”Its sick out there and getting sicker!”.
1) Raw Materialists (you're exploiting cement, copper)
2) Oxygenists (you're exploiting O2)
3) Waterists (you're exploiting lakes & rivers for recreation)
4) 401k-ists (you're selfishly investing money when you should be helping the rest of the world
5) Clothists (you're exploiting cotton)
Don't laugh. Save this post; I guarantee you that you will see any of the above within the next 10 years.
Stop mowing the lawn. Let the weeds go wild! Stop eating plants and their seed.
This gets to the heart of what never made logical sense to me about militant vegans and PETA members. If you dig up a carrot, a turnip, a radish, a potato, or a rutabaga and eat it, you just...killed it.
So it’s OK to kill some life forms in order to eat them, but not OK to kill other life forms — the determining factor apparently being how much the things we are killing are like us, or in other words, how closely we can relate to them.
A carrot doesn’t have a brain or eyes or ears or appendages. Its existence is alien to humans; we can’t relate to it. Its consciousness (and yes, I believe that every living thing has a form of consciousness, even a plant or a single cell), is foreign to us.
Animal consciousness is closer to ours. Their forms (bodies) are also closer. There is more of a connection to us because they more closely resemble us and to “what we know” (or think we know) to be “consciousness” and “feelings” and “intelligence.”
A lot of PETA members and vegans swat bugs for similar reasons. Hey, it’s just a bug. A few too many steps removed from human consciousness, so they don’t count. Carrots are quite a few more steps removed, and they’re “designed to be food,” so they don’t count either. It’s OK to kill them.
So you get into this sort of relativistic morality.
Who’s to say that that carrot you just ate didn’t feel anything when you killed it? Just because our scientists can’t measure anything and we can’t see anything happening, can we say that we 100% know what is really going on inside these beings?
I figure that we have dominion over the other life forms of the Earth, and while it is our responsibility to be humane toward them (I agree with keeping animals in humane ways, even if the ultimate goal is to slaughter them for food), nevertheless we still have dominion over them. So I eat both meat and plant food, with no shame. Heck, OTHER creatures here do the same thing, and humans have done so for millennia.
If you can’t come up with a valid reason as to why it’s OK to kill a carrot or radish or swat a bug, but it’s not OK to kill a chicken or to eat an egg (killing a potential chicken) — and so far I’ve heard nobody that has come up with such a reason — then you’d be best advised to not go running around telling other people what they can and can’t eat.
It was Cucumber the first; summer was over.
I had just spinached a long day and I was busheled.
I’m the kinda guy that works hard for his celery and I don’t mind telling you I was feeling a bit wilted.
But I didn’t carrot all. ‘Cause, otherwise, things were vine.
I try never to disparagus and I don’t sweat the truffles.
I’m outstanding in my field and I know something good will turnip eventually.
A bunch of things were going grape, and soon, I’d be top banana.
At least, that’s my peeling.
But that’s enough corn; lend me your ear and lettuce continue:
After dressing, I stalked on over to the grain station.
I got there just in lime to catch the nine-elemon as it plowed toward the core of Appleton,
a lentil more than a melon-and-a-half Yeast of Cloveland.
CHORUS
Life in the slaw lane.
They say plants can’t feel no pain.
Life in the slaw lane.
I’ve got news for you:
They’re just as frail as you.
No one got off at Zucchini, so we continued on a rutaBaga.
Passing my usual stop, I got avoCado.
I hailed a passing Yellow Cabbage and told the driver to cart me off to Broccolyn.
I was going to meet my brother across from the eggplant where he had a job at the Saffron station pumpkin gas.
As soon as I saw his face, I knew he was in a yam.
He told me his wife had been raisin cane. Her name was Peaches:
a soiled but radishing beauty with HUGE goards.
My brother had always been a chestnut, but I could neve figured out why she picked him.
He was a skinny little string bean who had always suffered from cerebral parsley.
It was in our roots.
Sure, we had tried to weed it out, but the problem still romained.
He was used to having a tough row to how, but it irrigated me to see Artichoke,
and it bothered my brother to see his marriage going to seed.
CHORUS
Like most mapled couples, they had a lot of grilling to do.
Sure, they’d sown their wild oats, but just barley if you peas.
Finally, Peaches had given him an ultomato. She said, “I’m hip to your chive,
and you don’t stop smoking that herb, I’m gonna leaf ya for Basil, ya fruit!”
He said he didn’t realize it had kumquat so far.
Onion other hand, even though Peaches could be the pits, I knew she’d never call the fuzz.
CHORUS
So I said, “Hay, we’re not farm from the Mushroom! Let’s walk over.”
He said, “That’s a very rice place. That’s the same little bar where alfalfa my wife!”
When we got there, I pulled up a cherry and tried to produce small talk.
I told him I haven’t seen Olive; not since I shelled off for a trip to Macadamia when I told her, “We cantaloupe.”
The time just wasn’t ripe.
She knew what I mint.
When we left the Mushroom, we were pretty well-juiced.
I told Arti to say hello to the boysenBerry and that I’d orange to see him another thyme.
Well, it all came out in the morning peppers:
Arti caught Peaches that night with Basil, and Arti beat Basil bad,
leaving him with two beautiful acres.
Peaches? She was found in the garden; she’d been pruned.
CHORUS
Well, my little story is okra now.
Maybe it’s small potatoes. Me? Idaho.
My name? Wheat. My friends call me “Kernel”.
And that’s life in the slaw lane.
Thank you so mulch.
CHORUS
It’s a garden out there!
From “Life in the Slaw Lane” by Kip Addotta, Rhino LP/cassette 70826
I murdered 2 onions and a head of lettuce today. They deserved it.
So, the Swiss believe broccoli to have feelings and rights, but they still allow abortion?
What kind of (non-living mineral matter) are they smoking???
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US Bullies Africa which Shouts "NO! To Unlabeled GMOs!"
You Are Glad We Are Here at Codex. The US Is Definitely Not!
US Bullies Africa on GM Labeling, Africa's Had Enough The US outdid itself at this Codex meeting. It actually bullied another country into withdrawing its submission because the paper South Africa submitted in favor of Mandatory GM Labeling was so strong and under cut the US position that no labeling should ever be permitted. South Africa is a sovereign nation, with its own concerns, laws and issues, but it was forced by US bullying to rescind its submission because of the international tantrum that the US threw. Read about it here (http://www.prweb.com/releases/GM_Labeling/Codex/prweb909004.htm).
The US DOES NOT want anyone to know if there is GM food in what they are eating under any circumstances. Once the US became aware of South Africa's paper (apparently before it was generally available to the rest of the meeting), they jumped all over them electronically. This was a major affront to national sovereignty, African and the concept that Codex is anything but a mouth piece for the multinational corporations which the US represents! Africa, however, decided that they have had enough!
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What this means for us as consumers is huge. What it means for us as an organization is likewise huge but adds a continuing requirement for sufficient funding for us to be able to continue both our health freedom campaigns in the US and to continue our international work. For example, we will need to go to Africa at least twice before the next CCFL meeting, perhaps 3 times, if we are to support this vitally important effort properly. Species-specific mandatory labeling of GM foods impacts each and every one of us. Manufacturers who have to put such declarations on their labels for international trade will put great pressure on the US to lift the ban on such labeling for domestic consumption. The US will be hard pressed, indeed, to keep such labeling out of the US on food imported (as more and more of our food is) and the pressure for mandatory GM labeling will be increased immeasurably by this move.
We are proud to be such an active part of this movement to allow people to have health freedom options in their food choices and eat safe foods.
YES, INDEED, compared to the US position, we certainly have something else to say to anyone with a pro-health ear and we continue to say it.
Thanks, Dr. Schneeman, for that excellent confirmation of the accuracy and importance of our work! Remember, the US actively FORBIDS the labeling of the GM components in your food.
You read that right. It FORBIDS any reference to the fact that 75-80% of your food contains (or is) Genetically Modified. So you are part of the largest experiment in human history. Risk Assessment and Risk Management depend on Post Market Surveillance, as it is called, which means finding out what the stuff that you are exposed to does to you. It is the final (and official) phase of human experimentation and clinical trials for foods and drugs. Without labeling, however, there can be no Post Market Surveillance because there is no possible way to find out who ate what and when. There is therefore absolutely no way of knowing what these "foods" are doing to us and our children, to our cancer and fertility rates, to the possibility that, for example, contact with GM cotton might be causing the horrifying Morgellon's Disease and [literally!] who knows what else. Consumers who want to avoid this stuff (as I do, because the more I learn about these products, the more concerned I become and the more unwilling I am to consume them.
The Natural Solutions Foundation is working on this issue inside, and outside, of the US because that's where the solutions are. What is the US afraid of your knowing? If you read Appendix I (on the right hand side of the Press Release about the situation (http://www.prweb.com/releases/GM_Labeling/Codex/prweb909004.htm)to South Africa's Conference Room Document 21 (now retracted), you will see a pretty good summary of why you should be afraid, very afraid, of eating GM foods. If you read Appendix II of the same document, you will see the official US Policy, taken directly from the FDA's website, on why GM foods are NOT tested for safety and why materials proving their safety are not required before they enter the food chain - and your body!
Two Working Groups on the labeling of GM foods were convened (Oslo, 2007 and Accra, 2008) to deal with this impasse. The Oslo meeting saw the memorable declaration by the US Delegate, FDA's Dr. Barbara Schneeman, that the reason the US FORBIDS any GM labeling is that consumers would overwhelmingly reject GM if they knew they were eating it and therefore, because the US holds that GM and non GM foods are identical, it would be false and misleading information if consumers were told the truth about GM components in their foods. I have previously reported on the stunned silence and astonishment that greeted this revelation, characterized by the EU Delegate (when he could catch his breath!) as "Weird!"
Zimbabwe, Zambia and several other African nations are, in fact, convinced the description should be "Lethal" because they believe that GM food is a genocidal strategy to depopulate Africa [first]. They may be right, given the fact that organisms like Epicyte's spermicide-producing corn, which confers permanent male sterility when eaten, which was patented in 2001. Monsanto and DuPont acquired it for development and proliferation. The extent to which it has contaminated the food chain is currently unknown.* Further, the emerging science of GM impacts is frighteningly clear: eating, raising or growing GM products has many serious impacts.**
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Veggies have the right to be eaten....especially collards with bacon drippings and a little pepper sauce
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