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I want to commend and thank you both for an excellent discussion that, among other matters, bears directly on the greatest issue of our time, the relentless and effective degradation of American culture resulting both from neglect, as well as assault, with the latter prosecuted both from within and without.

And this is not simply a matter for passing intellectual curiosity, but rather one of such import that it will determine not just the direction in which our nation will travel, but whether we will continue to exist as a nation at all. In the realm of earthly pursuits, the stakes could not be higher; and the time is late.

And yet, almost no one is discussing this and related issues.

For various reasons, I can’t engage the debate in an extended way at this time other than to say that the differences between you may well be due to a difference in your understandings of precisely what culture is. Beyond that and in principle, I tend to agree with kabar’s point of view. However, to the extent that the world of the dialectic is forced to deal with the real world, I think that puroresu’s points may have to be given serious consideration. Much more needs to be considered here.

I’ll save this link and hope to revive the debate sometime in the future.