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Horse Racing Is Breeding Itself to Death
Washington Post ^ | May 4, 2008 | Sally Jenkins

Posted on 05/03/2008 7:44:26 PM PDT by kingattax

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To: kingattax
I used to love watching the Kentucky Derby and marvel at the horses involved. My first experience with it was when Secretariat was the super horse.......

Then with the tragedy of Barbero and now Eight Belles, I am grateful that I was engaged in yard work when yesterday's derby took place because I had every intention of watching it. As it stands, I am seeing the still photos which are tear jerking in itself and I don't know how to deal with it.

On one hand I realize it is a business for the industry of horse racing and on the other hand, it is a hobby for the owners who deal with the obvious expendable commodity of horses, albeit expensive.

Is it a necessary part of our society? I don't know.....

Can we live without horse racing? Probably but I'm not the person to judge.

About all I can say is given what has happened this weekend and two years ago, it is unlikely I will set aside time to watch this event in future years..........

81 posted on 05/04/2008 2:52:03 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Who plugged the hole in the ozone layer?)
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To: lajollasurfer

Thanks for the post. THere was a guy prior who posted the pic of Barbaro in the recovery pool, and if you go to that web site they show xrays of the break, and it is as you mention. Lots of pieces.


82 posted on 05/04/2008 2:53:20 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: kingattax

Horse racing isn’t pointless. Money is the point.


83 posted on 05/04/2008 2:55:50 PM PDT by buck jarret
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To: kingattax

Sorry to see this horse euthanized. Which is why I don’t like the skinny little racing breeds and go for the heavy forelegged types. Much more useful over the long haul


84 posted on 05/04/2008 3:13:18 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: buck jarret

Many states have banned greyhound racing. Are there any states that have banned horseracing?


85 posted on 05/04/2008 3:17:27 PM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: ClearCase_guy
The WSJ had a great article on Native Dancer and his descendants. Genetic weakness in the legs — almost all thoroughbreds today come from the same stock and we’re now seeing what that means.

You have a link to that article?

86 posted on 05/04/2008 3:20:26 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Here you go:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120968356843561083.html


87 posted on 05/04/2008 4:17:03 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I agree about the trend in breeding the Native Dancer line. There have been some absolutely breathtaking horses that came of it, but I think it is responsible for a lot of the unsoundness on the track today. Go to Canter.com, there are hundreds of horses that break down every year, though not quite so spectacularly. Nasrullah was a great stallion, with a legacy of great horses, who also had good bone. A friend had an old hunter which I used to ride who was a son of Nasrullah, Secratariat’s uncle. Great old horse, but he could be mean as a basket full of rattlesnakes! Race bred, he had great bone, and stood up to a life as a stadium jumper before “retiring” to being a hunter, and lived to the ripe old age of 38, and died sound.


88 posted on 05/04/2008 5:35:15 PM PDT by Segovia (Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.)
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To: Segovia; HairOfTheDog; gate2wire
A friend had an old hunter which I used to ride who was a son of Nasrullah, Secratariat’s uncle.

Not to be a know-it-all or anything, but Nasrullah was Secretariat's grandsire, not his uncle. Secretariat was by Bold Ruler, who was by Nasrullah.

Secretariat had a lot of stamina influences in his pedigree, something that's not common today. For example, Bold Ruler's dam (mom) was by Discovery, who was by Display, who was by Fair Play, the sire of Man o' War. The Fair Play line is considered one of the most important stamina influences of the 20th Century, yet that sire line is nearly extinct today as fewer and fewer breeders in the last half-century have bred for stamina.

Secretariat was also a complete outcross, with no name being repeated in his pedigree going back 5 generations. Outcrosses like this are relatively uncommon these days. Perhaps it's not a coincidence that the two horses considered by far the best of the 20th Century, Man o' War and Secretariat, were outcrosses. Man o' War was a complete outcross going back 4 generations. In his 5th generation (great-great-great grandparents), only two names repeat.

Last year's Horse of the Year, Curlin, is a complete outcross going back 5 generations. However, he's a grandson of Mr. Prospector, who was sired by Raise A Native, Native Dancer's most important son. And Curlin's dam is from the Northern Dancer line. Native Dancer was the sire of Northern Dancer's dam.

So as you can see, these days it's all but impossible to find a pedigree that doesn't have the Native Dancer line and/or the Nearco line (mostly through his sons Nasrullah and Nearctic, the sire of Northern Dancer). So most, if not all of the mares he'll be bred to will be from those lines.

The author of the article is right in one respect. It really does seem as though a very small pool of bloodlines are used by breeders these days. Whether or not that's a contributing factor in the many catastrophic breakdowns we're seeing probably could not be said with certainty without a lot of genetic research.

89 posted on 05/08/2008 12:53:44 AM PDT by Wolfstar (Politics is the ultimate exercise in facing reality and making hard choices.)
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To: abigailsmybaby

I believe if they waited until they were 4 yr olds..there would be alot less injuries. They are not developed enough at 3 to race..imo


90 posted on 05/16/2008 11:51:09 AM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: Lizavetta

1st, they break the bones, which leads to tearing of tendons, ligaments and blood vessels-there is no longer any supporting structure to the leg, and if the blood vessels cannot be repaired, no blood supply to heal the wounds. Also, if it is a compound fracture, bacteria will enter the wound which can lead to infection. If the horse manages to survive all that, THEN the problem is one of off-leg laminitis, where the horse is supporting all it’s weight on the uninjured leg/hoof. This is what ultimatley killed Barbaro. There is also the problem of colic due to inactivity-the horse is stall ridden until healing takes place. Horses were meant to move constantly while grazing and do not take well to confinement, though this can be mitigated somewhat by careful monitoring of diet and handling.


91 posted on 12/29/2009 4:23:22 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: BIGLOOK

Speed kills, although even distance Euro horses break down. Colts are more likely to break down than fillies and mares-due to somewhat greater speeds, and that uncastrated males develop heavier musculature in their necks. More weight, more breakdowns. This is why jockeys have to be so light-it isn’t just an advantage to the owner’s horse, it’s to protect the animal.


92 posted on 12/29/2009 4:27:35 PM PST by Amberdawn
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