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Obama Descending
Primetime Politics ^ | May 3, 2008 | Michael Barone

Posted on 05/03/2008 4:06:05 AM PDT by moderatewolverine

Is the bottom falling out for Barack Obama? It’s too early to say that, but there are some disturbing signs. On the positive side, superdelegates still are breaking his way. Rep. Baron Hill, whose southern Indiana district almost certainly will vote for Hillary Clinton, came out for Obama. So did fellow Hoosier Joe Andrew, who previously endorsed Clinton and who was named Democratic national chairman by Bill Clinton in the 1990s. (James Carville may have another name for him.) Obama is still well ahead among delegates chosen in primaries and caucuses, and he is not very far behind in superdelegates, either.

But what about the voters? Here there are some ominous signs. The latest Fox News poll, conducted after the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s appearance at the National Press Club, showed Obama’s favorable/unfavorables at 63 to 27 percent among Democrats, compared to Hillary Clinton’s 73 to 22 percent. Suddenly she’s not the only one with high negatives. And 36 percent of Democrats say they would be disinclined to vote for Obama because of his longtime relationship with his former pastor. There’s more bad news in The Pew Research Center poll of Democrats. Obama’s national lead among Democrats is down from 49 to 39 percent to a statistically insignificant 47 to 45 percent.

(Excerpt) Read more at primetimepolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008polls; barone; election; obama; potus; wright
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To: levotb
What I’ve noticed is how few Jewish pundits have come out for Obama. I wonder why. And nobody’s talking about that. The truth is, Obama is NOT carrying the Jewish vote—Hillary is. Yet we hear so little about “the Jewish vote” as though it was a taboo subject. For another thread...



RUSH:...You know who I'm hearing is at the top of the list for Obama's vice president? Bloomberg. I kid you not. I'm hearing it from a couple of sectors. Michael Bloomberg, Mr. anti-trans fat, the mayor of Nuevo Ork, liberal Democrat, calls himself a Republican to trade on Rudy's coattails to get elected up there, is also climbing on board the gas tax holiday and being very critical of it. He said this to reporters yesterday about waiving the gasoline sales tax, federal tax.
21 posted on 05/03/2008 6:35:56 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: moderatewolverine
RUSH: The haughty John Kerry, who served in Vietnam, was on DNCTV yesterday. The info babe anchorette Alex Witt talked to Senator Kerry, who served in Vietnam. And she said, "A 20-year relationship, Reverend Wright married him, he was the one who baptized -- godparent, in essence, to his two daughters. How personally painful is this for Barack Obama?"

KERRY: Well, Alex, could I just say something to you? Obviously, it's painful, and he said it. But you know something? You folks need to let go of this. Television needs to stop dwelling on something that is in the past. I think you guys have gotta focus on the things that really matter to the American electorate.

RUSH: Like...?

KERRY: I think the other thing is just worn out, old history now. This guy had his narcissistic moment, and it's finished.

RUSH: It's not over yet, Senator Kerry. We haven't heard the last of the narcissist Reverend Jeremiah Wright. I think it takes a narcissist to know one. This is rich, Senator Kerry, the haughty John Kerry, calling Jeremiah Wright a narcissist. Mike, we gotta go back, because he's just given me an example. I gotta find Michelle (My Belle) Obama. Yes, audio sound bite number nine, before we get back in order. Michelle (My Belle) Obama was on the Today Show today, along with her husband, Barack, who, in case some of you forgot, is running for president. Meredith Vieira said, "Michelle, do you personally feel that the reverend betrayed your husband?"

MICHELLE OBAMA: You know what I think, Meredith? We gotta move forward. You know, this conversation doesn't help my kids. You know, it doesn't help kids out there who are looking for us to make decisions and choices about how we're going to better fund education.

RUSH: Oh, come on. You think the kids are worried about how you're going to fund education? All they want is to be able to play at recess. They can't even play at recess anymore. In fact, I saw there's a story, I didn't print it out, but there's a story, school district somewhere is looking to hire somebody, pay 'em $46,000 a year to work one hour a day managing play, permissible play during recess at some grade school. But you can't play dodgeball, you can't play tag, you can't do anything. Anyway, this is the old Clinton line. Bob Dole really reamed him in a debate, and Clinton said, "No attack ever fed a hungry child," and here's Michelle (My Belle) Obama, "Well, that's not doing anything about kids," and so forth. "Can't we move on to the future?" This is pathetic. You people in the Obama campaign are disappointing me. For example, where are the Obama spokespeople? You in the Obama campaign, I know you're worried the next shoe to drop is going to be Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn. Why not put them to work? Have them go out and talk about their good friend Susan Rosenberg? Does the name ring a bell, folks?

Do you people in the Obama campaign even know who Susan Rosenberg is? She was a terrorist in the Weather Underground, and Bill Clinton pardoned her on his last day in office, out from under a 58-year sentence for terrorist bombings. So, yeah, you think you're waiting for the next shoe to drop on Bill Ayers, where is the Obama campaign out there talking about Bill Clinton, husband of Hillary, pardoning a Weather Underground terrorist. And, by the way, there's another name, Linda Evans. Linda Evans, another Weather Underground terrorist that Clinton pardoned on his last day in office, out from under her 40-year sentence for terrorist bombings. Who knows Rosenberg and Evans better than Ayers and Dohrn? Come on, Obama, you got Ayers and Dohrn out there. Go out and get them talking about the associations with the Weather Underground that the Clintons have. This campaign is really letting me down. It's disappointing me. Frankly, Obama, I'm getting tired of having to waste precious broadcast time here on the EIB Network telling you how to straighten this out. You have people out there speaking for you like John Kerry?

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Dick Durbin sort of like loses his cool lecturing Andrea Mitchell. She played this sound bite for Durbin. This sound bite is Obama right after his "courageous" press conference on Jeremiah Wright going right back to his old line of blowing off the Wright story. So this is a sound bite from Tuesday night, Senator Obama in Hickory, North Carolina, after the big press conference on Jeremiah Wright.

OBAMA: They're talking about, uhh, W-w-what -- what? W-who is he? Do we know his values?" and, "He's not wearing a flag pin right now," and, you know, "His former pastor said some crazy stuff."

RUSH: Okay. So she plays Durbin that sound bite, and then she says, "Isn't he trying to trivialize an issue that only a couple hours earlier said was really very important and needed to be acknowledged?" (cont.)

Obama Campaign Comes Apart
22 posted on 05/03/2008 6:39:05 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: levotb
Barone is a liberal who hates conservatives. He’s one of those white liberals who’s been “smitten” by the phony Obama.

You're mistaken. Perhaps you are thinking of someone else.

23 posted on 05/03/2008 7:01:44 AM PDT by John from Manhattan
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To: moderatewolverine
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24 posted on 05/03/2008 7:04:41 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: levotb

Barone a liberal? Sheer nonsense.


25 posted on 05/03/2008 7:28:42 AM PDT by RichardW
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To: levotb

Another Liberal bleeding heart ,coward .
I dont get it when these weak kneed pansies have to inject a Qualifier in their remarks ,He feels that we should elect a Black President. Fine, Write an article about your liberal guilt you pansie. I dont care what you think


26 posted on 05/03/2008 8:29:53 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: zeebee

Ooooohh, can I get one in Arabic?


27 posted on 05/03/2008 9:17:46 AM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
Oh I get it - an ethnic joke - funny - not.

Oh, I get it, your political-correctness gland devoured your sense of humor, but the little old ladies of your local church sewing circle think you're still 'Kool'.

Heh. Whatever gets you through the nite bub.
28 posted on 05/03/2008 9:49:35 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American history.)
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To: moderatewolverine
Of course his candidacy is descending. As the news comes out about his associations, and as honest people consider this info...he is taking well deserved hits.

As one example of many, Bill Ayers is an unrepentant domestic terrorist who is an absolute treasonous, bastardly traitor to this nation. He went over to an enemy during a time of war and then proceeded to commit acts of war on our soil in support of that enemy, trying to bring down our own government and kill our citizens.

In any sane world he would have danced on the end of a rop years ago.

The fact that instead the charges against him, which he to this day admits to, were dropped on a technicality, and instead, he has been made a professor who teaches our kids and an icon by the left, shows just how insane these times are and how completely out of touch with reality those fools are who hold this enemy up.

That Barack Hussein Obama has any friendly realtionship with this man, used him as a right of passage in the Chicago area, used this man's house to kcik of his political career, etc., etc. Says all you will ever need to know about Barack Hussein Obama.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH - BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY AND OBAMA'S CHURCH

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH - OBAMA'S CIRCLE OF FRIENDS AND SUPPORT

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH - BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

29 posted on 05/03/2008 9:55:44 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: mkjessup
Honestly now, have you ever tried to write "Pay to the order of Hillary Clinton Campaign" on a check, using a can of spray paint?

iS THAT A RASCIST STATEMENT...?....lol!

30 posted on 05/03/2008 10:26:46 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yeah, I’m a racist, I watch them NASCAR racists every week, goin’ ‘round n’ ‘round them circular tracks, kinda reminds me of the circular logic used by the Democrats, it goes ‘round n’ ‘round but never gets nowheres!

Ah guess mah racists has come home to roooooooost!!!!


31 posted on 05/03/2008 2:35:50 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American history.)
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To: mkjessup
LOL !
32 posted on 05/03/2008 7:42:28 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: MNJohnnie
Since when have the Dems showed any sense?
Obama is going to get the nomination, he must.
Remember this is the same party that felt that eGore
(sorry internet slip)Gore was cheated out of the 2000
election. What would happen if Hillary was able to
convince the delegates to vote her way? Obama will pull
out his dog-eared race card and all Heck would break
loose.
33 posted on 05/03/2008 7:50:29 PM PDT by topfile
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To: carola
I'm sad to say, though, that the Wright issue is only part of the problem. I was out with some close friends today, some of whom support Obama. They're not the "fainter" types and we had a debate that got mildly contentious, but I took some interesting things from it (and yes, we're still friends, though I can't say if there are any bruised egos--some of my points could have landed pretty close to home for some, but that's not my fault). They both acknowledged that Wright was a wacko and Obama looked like a "typical" two-faced politician in his handling of it, but they both felt that Hillary was far more deceitful and untrustworthy. They also stood to benefit from socialized medicine and that was their overriding concern.

When it came to debate the merits of it, they were shocked (shocked, I say!) when my response to the plight of people without healthcare was, "how is this my problem?"

"But don't you feel some kinship as an American?"

"Um...no! Did they put me through school? Do they do my job for me? Being a fellow American doesn't mean, 'I'm a sucker, come and take my wages.'"

The debate went back and forth for quite a while and covered subjects ranging from healthcare to the mortgage debacle and others, and while I was prepared to acknowledge that I don't have a problem being compassionate to people who through no fault of their own legitimately need help, I was adamant that we should not be attempting to protect people from making stupid mistakes in their lives (including failing to take advantage of the opportunities that come their way). I was able to get them to concede that I was making some valid points, but in the end they still plan to support Obama -- they simply stand too much to gain from it (or so they believe, at least). I did my best to point out things that responsible people are supposed to do, like saving (what a concept!), but it seemed to fall on some deaf ears.

I guess the moral of my rambling is that we can and should stand our ground, but we need to address the self-interest component here. Obama is suckering a lot of people in by promising something that they really want and either believe that they can't get any other way or don't want to do what it takes for it.
34 posted on 05/03/2008 7:57:38 PM PDT by Windcatcher
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To: Windcatcher
Ya know, folks long ago would say "the Dems are the party of the Working Class". Not anymore. Now they’re the party of the Non-Working Class and the Republicans represent those who work for a living.
35 posted on 05/03/2008 8:07:39 PM PDT by topfile
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To: Windcatcher
When it came to debate the merits of it, they were shocked (shocked, I say!) when my response to the plight of people without healthcare was, "how is this my problem?"

You might also have asked them, "Who, exactly, are these people without healthcare?"

The figure "48 million Americans" is often cited.

But that figure is composed of:

1. Illegal aliens (an estimated 12-15 million of them don't have health insurance...fancy that).

2. Poor people who are eligible for Medicaid coverage but haven't yet had a need to access the program (est. 15 million).

3. Young people who choose not to be covered -- not necessarily an irrational decision (another est. 15 million).

And, of course, the above groups and everybody else without health insurance can walk into any hospital, demand and receive emergency medical care.

So, you might ask them, "How much should we warp the current healthcare system that is serving the needs of 298 million Americans so as to accommodate the needs of a few million others?"

36 posted on 05/03/2008 8:12:13 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: okie01
I had the distinct impression that they spent most of their time in echo chambers and weren't used to being called on their points. When we got to the housing crisis and they felt that we should help the people who were losing their houses, they were pretty shocked when my response was that we should do nothing. My position is that the crisis was caused by a combination of low interest rates and ARM's (especially the ARM's), and that ARM's were a shortcut for people to buy what they could not afford. Five years ago we had a mutual friend tell anyone who would listen that ARM's were an impending catastrophe, and, lo and behold, here we are! Anyone who used an ARM to buy a house that they couldn't otherwise afford, I pointed out, did something really stupid, and anyone who followed those "cash out your home equity" Geico ads was just as stupid. We should not protect people from doing stupid things to themselves or their future. "It's sad, and it sucks to be them, but some of us saw this coming and knew to avoid it." I was surprised at how shocked they were to hear me take this stand, and it was telling.

Call liberals on their points. Maybe it will help, but not doing so definitely won't. When they cry about housing, the point to make is simple: an affordable house costs no more than 2.5 times one's income. ARM's or other gimmicks are no way around this, and the current problem is because people were trying to buy houses at 3.5, even 4 times their income. This is not sustainable in this or any other economy and foreclosures and price crashes were inevitable.
37 posted on 05/03/2008 8:38:41 PM PDT by Windcatcher
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To: Windcatcher

Small correction: those weren’t Geico ads. I think that came from the fact that I despised them just as much :^)


38 posted on 05/03/2008 8:44:39 PM PDT by Windcatcher
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To: Windcatcher
There is one axiom a liberal is congenitally incapable of understanding:

If you want more of something, subsidize it.
If you want less of something, tax it.

Subsidizing stupidity only creates more of it. Taxing productivity only diminishes it.

My sis, the social worker, has never grasped this principle.

39 posted on 05/04/2008 9:46:19 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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