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To: BlackElk
We have Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Alito. Stevens is pushing 90 with one foot in the grave and another on a banana peel. Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg is not thought to be in good health. Sandra Day O'Kennedy will probably flip when the pro-life majority is established. I am not interested in perfection under the circumstances. Next we overturn Roe and neither Her Satanic Thighness nor Hussein will advance that agenda. Voting for third party moonbats is nothing more than an exercise in self-worship and obsessively self-centered uberfussiness by those who vote that way.

With the history of McCain's Marerickness (see below), why would you think you would get anything with respect to judges that would even come close to your principles?

McCain's history:


1. Gang of Fourteen (Kept some of President Bush’s best judges from being presented for a vote) See here and here
2. McCain-Fiengold (Assault on Free Speech and Pro-Life
3. McCain-Kennedy (Amnesty for criminal Illegal Aliens)
4. McCain-Lieberman (50 cents a gallon tax)
5. Total support for global warming scam, including the Carbon Cap-and-Trade system. See Here
6. Support for embryonic stem cell research (Murder of unborn babies).
7. Wants to close Gitmo and give Terrorists access to our legal system.
8. F grade from Gun-Owners of America.
9. C grade from NRA.
10. 65% score from American Conservative Union in 2006
11. Wants to bail out sub-prime losers (many of which are either illegal aliens or lied on thier applications) with US tax money.
12. Voted against President Bush’s tax cuts (called them tax-cuts for the rich)
13. Flirted with the idea of crossing over to the Dems in 2004.
14. Wants to implement a socialist Health Care proposal that includes providing tax-coffer monies (your tax dollars) to the states to provide Health Care Insurance for those who either refuse to pay for it, or are unable to afford it (mostly illegal aliens).
15. Divorced his wife after he got back from Vietnam. The same woman who remained true to him and raised his kids while he was imprisoned.
16. Refuses to drill in ANWR. See here and here
17. Agrees with Democrats that our Foreign Policy has been arrogant and we need to be more humble.
18. Thinks and states that Pharmaceutical companies are evil
19. Has accepted funding from Soros and Teresa Heinz-Kerry for his institute
20. John McCain's Top 10 Class-Warfare Arguments Against Tax Cuts
21 "I think the Democrat Party is a fine and I have no problems with it, in their views and philosophy"
22. Strongly against Same Sex Marriage Ban Constitutional Amendment
23. Voted for Pro-Abortion Bill and Here.
24. Voted against bill that would impose sanctions against foreign governments and companies that invest more than $20 million in Iran's energy sector until the president certified to Congress that Iran had dismantled its weapons of mass destruction Here and Here
25. Voted against repealing the death tax.
26. McCain-Edwards-Kennedy    (Many Democrat inspired bad rules included in this monstrosity)
19 posted on 05/03/2008 3:56:44 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: SoConPubbie

I guess at best we should hope for a repeat of Gdubya and not of his father.. not much consolation for the conservative cause in either case, but,, when ya got lemons, ya make lemonade, right? or do you 8-?

I hate to be a sourpuss,, but neither party or at least its lead “actors” seem much intetrested in conservatism , and if so, only to a limited degree and when it serves their own purposes.


21 posted on 05/03/2008 9:31:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... Home at last, Thank God almighty I am home at last!)
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To: SoConPubbie
Suffice it to say that:

1. I disagree with several of your concerns;

2. That McCain is the best available candidate;

3. That McCain is not a bad candidate at all although he won't match Reagan;

4. That her Satanic Thighness is a disciple of Saul Alinsky;

5. That Obama is a disciple of people far worse than even Saul Alinsky like William Weatherman Ayres and Bernardine the SDS Queen Dohrn and Jeremiah Racist Wright and a crony of gangster Tony Rezko;

6. That third party looney tunes are no more likely to actually be elected than was the despicable Al Qaeda shill paleoPaulie: chances none and less than none;

7. Depriving National Right to Life Committee weasels of the ability to shake down trusting old ladies with the usual pack of lies about what wonders that one final BIG contribution will make is hardly a blow to pro-life efforts and keeping megazillions of gullible election money down to a dull roar is no threat to free speech unless the ability to provide fancy perks, first class airfares and swell hotel suites to RTL staffers is somehow a statement in political discourse. Having represented as an attorney 1100 pro-life arrestees (without fees), I know from pro-life and McCain-Feingold is no threat;

8. The list of 26 issues you have with McCain is replete with the usual bunch of half truths, gross exaggerations and essentially irrelevant trivia.

9. Politics is for grown ups, the folks who recognize reality and deal with it as effectively as possible. If we don't have an ideal candidate, don't blame McCain, blame what used to be the conservative movement for failure to meet basic recruitment and training obligations for about twenty-eight years. Many in my early boomer generation, having accomplished our generational goal of electing Ronaldus Maximus, retired to normal life, normal marriages, had kids, got jobs and/or built businesses.

10. Politics is not the sport of designer self-worship for those too lazy or clueless to build a genuine movement. Sitting around whining about the faults of the available candidates won't get anything positive done. Neither will third party votes that have the effect of electing outright Marxists and enthusiastic babykillers over "mavericks" and less than ideal Republicans.

11. If McCain got a 65% from the 2006 American Conservative Union of David Keene who waffles on the war and supported Bush the Elder over Reagan in 1980 BTW, what did Hillary get as an ACU rating? What did Osama Obama get as an ACU rating in 2007 and 2008?

12. The conservative movement is so weak today that an anti-war twerp and Al Qaeda mouthpiece like paleoPaulie gets away with calling himself "conservative." Today's paleoPaulie would have been crushed like a worm by the actual conservative movement that was known as the New Right in the 60s and 70s.

22 posted on 05/04/2008 2:50:38 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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