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To: calcowgirl
I can recommend better programs for you, but we can have a primer. I asked for the names of people who have been pardoned while their appeals are running. The first supply was Scooter. Your first contribution was Marc Rich.

Now, I don't want to get back into that whole commutation vs. pardon thing, and took the correction regarding Scooter.

Why would you bring up Marc Rich? Was his appeal still running? I don't think so. What was the point of throwing out just a list of names without checking?

116 posted on 05/02/2008 4:17:53 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy; calcowgirl
Now, I don't want to get back into that whole commutation vs. pardon thing, and took the correction regarding Scooter.

Well, I believe people are upset with the apparent favoritism Bush has displayed in his treatment of Libby when compared to his treatment of Ramos and Compean. It seems that Bush is being a stickler for procedure in the case of Ramos and Compean and was not in the case of Libby.

Here is evidence.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/07/02/libby.sentence/

Bush commutes Libby's prison sentence

Clemency petitions are normally reviewed by the Justice Department, which investigates the case and seeks input from the federal prosecutor who brought the case before issuing a recommendation to the president. A government official said that Bush did not consult with the Justice Department before rendering his decision.

According to that statement, the Justice Department would have sought the input from prosecuter Fitzgerald who stated:

In a statement issued Monday night, Fitzgerald took issue with Bush's description of the sentence as "excessive," saying it was "imposed pursuant to the laws governing sentencings which occur every day throughout this country."

"It is fundamental to the rule of law that all citizens stand before the bar of justice as equals," Fitzgerald said. "That principle guided the judge during both the trial and the sentencing."

Fitzgerald was not a friendly prosecutor. The prosecutor for Ramos and Compean is Bush's friend, Johnny Sutton. You draw your own conclusion.

BTW FWIW, I believe Libby, Ramos, and Compean are all innocent.

119 posted on 05/02/2008 8:40:51 AM PDT by AndrewC (You should go see "Expelled")
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