"My momma told me life is like a box of tacos..."
Posted on 05/01/2008 5:14:19 PM PDT by dynachrome
Well, that's exactly the point I'm making. Why ask the question, if it can't be answered? It was an opinion after all. I can point to lies, or charitably, mistaken comments, made publicly by Sutton concerning the Ramos and Compean incident. Those "misstatements" lend little support to the non-abuse position.
Because the opinion was stated with such authority I was wondering if there was something I had missed—some sort of a determination somewhere that Sutton abused his authority. In fact, I haven’t even heard that Ramos and Compean’s attorneys making that claim . . . and if they are not that is a pretty good indication of the strength of that particular argument.
We agree.
After a challenge, I read and analyzed the trial transcript. What is evident in the procedure is a zealous pursuit of Ramos and Compean much more in intensity that the "car chase" the prosecution evidently successfully foists off on the jury as an indication that Ramos and Compean were bent on abusing the rights of the "victim" drug-trafficker. Why this pursuit is so zealous is the heart of this distrust of Sutton. I do not know of any abuse of power that can be attributable to Sutton, save the deliberate misinterpretation of the law concerning the discharging of a weapon, or the deliberate misrepresentation of the scope and type of immunity agreements given to the various prosecutorial witnesses some who in the record were shown to have changed their "stories". As I stated, Sutton has "misstated" some testimony after the fact, in order to keep Ramos and Compean in an unfavorable light.
That's why Bush's name deserves to be dragged through the mud on this. He continues to support Sutton and his horrific abuse of men trying to protect the U.S. from an invader.
The only thing that concern's me about Bush in this case is how he can be involved in providing justice for these innocent men. Calling Bush names will not free Ramos and Compean. Clearly pointing out his special treatment of his friends when compared to his non-friends has the potential to get Bush off the dime.
concern’s=concerns
If Bush ever does pardon these guys it will be his last day. (I don't believe he ever will)
Imagine the publicity McCain or Clinton would get if they declared, "On my first day of presidency I will pardon Ramos and Compean!"?
Imagine the votes they would get?
It's too late to save Bush in my eyes. The man has done more damage to the GOP than any dem could. He's created so much animosity with his policies that it probably cannot be fixed.
I no longer participate in the national GOP. They can get lost. Mostly because of Bush but add in all the others that are clamoring for amnesty while ignoring Ramos Compean.
Not to minimize Bush's failings, he is not alone in the recent damage done to the party. He also gave us Roberts and Alito. McCain has also done significant damage to the GOP but, in a perverse way, he also gave us Roberts and Alito.
There is some truth to that. However. Imagine if Bush, at the outset of his first administration, had turned hard line conservative? He had a GOP Congress to use at will. What did he do? He equivocated and starting proposing moderate to liberal policies right off the bat. Some say it was because he felt guilty about the election.
In any case he had a Congress chomping at the bit to go to the right. With Bush's vacillations he created a schizophrenic Congress. After a few months of Bush they didn't know which way to go. So, they started to follow him because isn't that what you're supposed to do when the leader of the party turns left.
That gave us CFR, Medicaid drugs, NCLB, massive spending both military and discretionary.
Bush has always been for amnesty and even believes the U.S. and mexico are destined to be one.
I am so done with Bush. McCain, Hillary and Obama are all of the same cloth. I will not vote for any of them.
You provide a compelling argument, but I still must vote for McCain. I will, however, wear a gas mask at the polls.
Of course, $20's and $50's in shopping bags delivered to Hugh Rodham.
LOL. We'll see if I get cold feet or the chills kick in and fear makes me vote for McCain....
ping
Not sure who all that was directed at but I'll respond since you included me.
What difference does it make that they are appealing? None. Bush is determined to appease his buddies across the border and thus, refuses to pardon these two.
Tis but one of the reasons I consider George W. Bush to be the worst president I have ever voted for.
Let me see...
Yep seems to fit. I suspect a lot of the 71 percent disapproval rate has nothing to do with the war on terrorism.
Tis but one of the reasons I consider George W. Bush to be the worst president I have ever voted for.
I agree. He has left America more vulnerable to foreign influence than I ever would have imagined possible.
"My momma told me life is like a box of tacos..."
Yes.
They all made substantial campaign contributions to the Clintons.
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