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To: brytlea
ALLEGED!

Until anyone has been convicted of a crime in a court of law, these people are innocent and hundreds of children have been harmed.

Once these people have been convicted of a crime, then I will agree with many of the statements expressed. But until that happens, I will defend the families.

I used a personal example of my own daughter loosing custody, because she lied to the judge in a court of law. False accusations of child sexual abuse must have strong penalties.

Many of the views expressed by some Freepers on this topic are held by myself also. We really do not disagree, and I could care less about the FLDS. Personally, their choices go against almost everything that I believe in.

I may not state my feelings about a specific topic diplomatically, but I do stand by what I have tried to say.

If I expressed a concept in a way that offended someone, it was never intended that way.

If a child is being abused, then they are responsible for reporting it to another responsible adult, if they want help.

When the police are notified, physical evidence can be gathered, which can be used in a court of law to convict the abuser.

534 posted on 05/02/2008 6:51:06 AM PDT by Hunble (ARCHIVED!)
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To: Hunble

I have seen ample evidence that the state did the right thing, but I’m open to suggestions as to how it could have been handled differently (and perhaps better).
As for damage to the children, unless the women who have escaped from the cult and written books and done interviews are just flat out lying, it’s hard to imagine they are more damaged from the removal than they would have been from staying in their situation.

The most interesting thing to me will be to see who their parents really are.

susie


537 posted on 05/02/2008 6:55:27 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Hunble
If a child is being abused, then they are responsible for reporting it to another responsible adult, if they want help.

Most of the kids in that compound wouldn't know that. They've been told all their lives that this is God's will and that the outside world is evil and of the devil. That has effectively stopped any chance they have of reporting it. They're not like the kids outside the compound who are taught that that option exists.

Your constant blaming of the children for staying in their abusive situation is disgusting beyond words.

The parents are responsible to make the abuse stop. It's their JOB to protect their own children. That's why God gave kids parents, to protect them when they are unable to protect themselves.

NO, NO, NO, a thousand times NO!!!! The children are not the ones responsible to stop the abusive situation, it is not their burden to bear; it's the parents responsibility. And if the parents won't do it, someone has to and the government is the only body left with the legal authority to do something.

Blaming them for something they have no control over is abuse in and of itself. That's just adding psychological abuse in the form of a guilt trip on top of all the physical abuse they've suffered.

539 posted on 05/02/2008 7:01:49 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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