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To: Paul Ross

Keep saying it and keep thinking it, but Hitler NEVER mentioned Darwin, he did mention the Creator. You post what other people said. I post what Hitler said. Socrates invented the ‘eugenics” that Hitler revered.


73 posted on 05/01/2008 4:38:11 PM PDT by Soliton
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To: Soliton

“Keep saying it and keep thinking it, but Hitler NEVER mentioned Darwin”

What do you think Hitler is referring to when he talks about “selection.”

Selection is the crown jewel in Darwinian science, so of course Hitler was talking about Darwinism, if not Darwin himself.


75 posted on 05/01/2008 4:41:00 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: Soliton
I post what Hitler said

Really? Then do so, to wit: after Mein Kampf, Hitler wrote a second book ("Zweites Buch") , in which he went into considerable detail about his affection for Darwinian evolution concepts:

On the second page, both of the German and English versions, Hitler stated:

"In the limitation of this living space lies the compulsion for the struggle for survival, and the struggle for survival, in turn, contains the precondition for evolution."

A page later Hitler stated:

"This development (Entwicklung) is characterized by the never-ending battle (Kampf) of humans against animals and also against humans themselves."

A better translation of this would be:

"This evolution is characterized by an eternal struggle of humans against animals and against humans themselves."

Wikipedia's discussion of the evolutionary principles Hitler embraced are particularly noticeable when Hitler discusses the U.S., wiki summarizes as follows:

In Mein Kampf, Hitler rarely mentioned the United States and when he did, it was in a tone of deep contempt. In Mein Kampf, Hitler portrayed the United States as a “racially degenerate” society on its way to self-oblivion. By contrast, in Zweites Buch, Hitler portrayed the U.S. as a dynamic, “racially successful” society that practiced eugenics and segregation and followed what Hitler considered to be a wise policy of excluding “racially degenerate” immigration from eastern and southern Europe. What promoted the change in Hitler's views between 1924 and 1928 is not known. By 1928, Hitler seems to have heard about the massive industrial wealth of the U.S., the Immigration Act of 1924, segregation and the fact that several American states had eugenics boards to sterilize people who were considered mentally defective, and was favorably impressed. Hitler proclaimed his admiration for these sorts of policies and expressed his wish that Germany would do similar things, though on a much greater scale.

Of all Germany’s potential enemies, Hitler ranked the United States as the greatest and most dangerous. By contrast, Hitler saw the United Kingdom as a fellow “Aryan” power that in exchange for Germany's renunciation of naval and colonial ambitions would ally itself with Germany. France in Hitler’s opinion, was rapidly “Negroizing” itself. In regard to the Soviet Union, Hitler dismissed the Russian people as being Slavic Untermensch (sub-humans) incapable of intelligent thought. Hitler consequently believed that the Russian people were ruled over by what he regarded as a gang of bloodthirsty but inept Jewish revolutionaries. By contrast, the majority of Americans were in Hitler’s view “Aryans”, albeit Aryans ruled by what Hitler saw as a Jewish plutocracy. In Hitler’s point of view, it was this combination of “Aryan” might coupled with competent “Jewish rule” which was what made the U.S. so dangerous.


90 posted on 05/01/2008 4:59:12 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Soliton

Nazism violates the most basic doctrine of Christianity and God’s laws. This is irrefutable.

On the contrary, Nazism and social Darwinism are perfectly congruent and compatible. This is undeniable.

Your argument is going nowhere.


101 posted on 05/01/2008 5:18:55 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Of foolishness and evil intent only one can take the lead, and socialists have no other choices.)
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