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We at DOW CHEMICAL are making ETHANOL from SUGAR CANE in BRAZIL! Not all ethanol is made from corn, not all ethanol is used as automobile fuel. Our ethanol will be used in PLASTICS, polyurethane. This will NOT upset food production, no one ever ever ever NEEDS to eat sugar cane period!


3 posted on 05/01/2008 2:17:16 PM PDT by buffyt (Glowbull Warming: The Greatest Hoax Since Y 2 K !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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The testimony today from the White House Agricultural Economist testified that prices for corn based items including corn fed livestock are up 20% because of ethanol and the other products like Wheat bread is more drought and speculation.


9 posted on 05/01/2008 2:21:01 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: buffyt
This will NOT upset food production, no one ever ever ever NEEDS to eat sugar cane period!

What was growing on that land before they planted sugar cane for ethanol?

12 posted on 05/01/2008 2:23:49 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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This is a new experience for me, defending Ted Kennedy--- but I think he's correct. He's not saying "all ethanol is bad," (a lunatic generalization), he saying government-mandated ethanol fuel requirements mean that competition for crops will drive up grain prices.

Greater demand produces higher prices in the short term, greater supply in the long term. But if nations are expanding crop land into presently forested areas, it's hard to see how the carbon savings are going to work.

And if ethanol were such a great option for vehicle fuel, they wouldn't have to "mandate" it, would they?

15 posted on 05/01/2008 2:27:18 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification.)
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If ethanol is a good idea, then end the federal subsidies and regulations and let the market drive it. Personally, I think it’s a terrible idea, but if the known problems can be solved in a way that it actually contributes to lower costs, better energy efficiency, and longer engine life, then the market will ensure its continued use. As I said, I doubt whether any of these problems can be easily resolved.

As it stands now, it drives up the cost of food, takes more energy to produce than it gives back, decreases the life of engines, and unless properly produced undermines the fertility of agricultural land and the variety of species in the southern hemisphere.

It’s significant that Kennedy has now jumped in on the other side.


38 posted on 05/01/2008 2:44:57 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: buffyt
We at DOW CHEMICAL are making ETHANOL from SUGAR CANE in BRAZIL! Not all ethanol is made from corn, not all ethanol is used as automobile fuel. Our ethanol will be used in PLASTICS, polyurethane. This will NOT upset food production, no one ever ever ever NEEDS to eat sugar cane period!

So who are you, the Marketing guy?You're not the only plant on the block dude............

Great Lakes Ethanol

"Welcome to Great Lakes Ethanol

Great Lakes Ethanol, LLC (GLE) was organized as a Michigan limited liability company on May 29, 2003 for the purpose of developing, building, and operating a dry mill ethanol plant in southeastern Michigan. "Delivering high quality corn products and customer service from the Great Lakes Region"

Buffyt, where do you suppose Great Lakes Ethanol is getting its products? Certainly not Brazil.............

44 posted on 05/01/2008 2:49:41 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Who plugged the hole in the ozone layer?)
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To: buffyt
We at DOW CHEMICAL are making ETHANOL from SUGAR CANE in BRAZIL! Not all ethanol is made from corn, not all ethanol is used as automobile fuel. Our ethanol will be used in PLASTICS, polyurethane. This will NOT upset food production, no one ever ever ever NEEDS to eat sugar cane period!

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67 posted on 05/01/2008 3:56:12 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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