Posted on 05/01/2008 6:01:31 AM PDT by MizSterious
FLDS doctor denies abuse at YFZ Ranch |
By Heather May and Brooke Adams The Salt Lake Tribune Salt Lake Tribune |
Article Last Updated:05/01/2008 01:20:20 AM MDT |
The physician who cares for the polygamous community now in the national spotlight - and who has treated its prophet in a Utah jail - is described by his mentor as "very kind, very sensitive, very concerned." Lloyd H. Barlow, a member of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, graduated from the University of Utah's School of Medicine in 1995. He completed a one-year internship in internal medicine in 1996, and then did a family medicine residency at the U. that ended in 1999. Barlow oversees a health clinic in Hildale, the sect's traditional home base, and its Texas clinic at its YFZ Ranch. Texas authorities allege there is a pattern of sexual abuse of underage girls at the ranch; and on Wednesday an official said at least 41 children there have had broken bones. He also said young boys may have been sexually abused. Barlow flatly denies that any child abuse occurred at the ranch. "There is not," Barlow said. "The parents are very loving and caring parents, as I believe [Texas child welfare officials] could attest given the stresses put on them over the past three weeks and observing them. The parents are very much interested in the care and well-being of their children." He added: "It is part of our belief system that the way to teach and train children is to deal with them and train them in kindness." Physicians are legally required to report cases of suspected child abuse - something Barlow said he would have done if he found such evidence. Texas authorities would not comment Wednesday on whether investigations include whether anyone failed to report abuse of children at the ranch. Barlow said children with serious illnesses or injuries were treated at health care facilities outside the ranch, and police found receipts for such care, court records show. There have been no public complaints against Barlow or discipline by licensors in Utah or Texas. Physician Marc E. Babitz was Barlow's faculty supervisor during his residency program and worked with him at a now-closed family practice clinic in Salt Lake City. "He was really a very fine student and a very fine resident. He put the welfare of his patients as his top priority," said Babitz, who once visited Barlow at the Hildale clinic. He said he was once introduced to one of Barlow's wives. Until Barlow completed his medical degree, Hildale and the adjoining FLDS town of Colorado City, Ariz., had a single nurse practitioner to rely on. "He made a huge difference to health care in this area," said Joanne Yarrish, a certified nurse midwife in nearby Centennial Park. Barlow repeatedly visited then-ailing sect leader Warren S. Jeffs in the Washington County jail in the spring of 2007. Jeffs was awaiting trial and was later convicted of two first-degree felony counts of rape as an accomplice for his role in a 2001 spiritual marriage between a 14-year-old follower and her 19-year-old cousin. --- * JULIA LYON contributed to this report. |
I think you are incorrectly inferring from the general to the particular. I intensely distrust politicians and I have several politician friends, does that mean that I intensely distrust them? No. I also believe that we have the best government money can buy, does that mean that I believe that all of my political friends are bought and paid for? Well not all just a few : )
I would find it hard to respect people who I felt weren’t doing their jobs, especially if people’s lives hung in the balance. you insinuate that they’re not doing their jobs. But, maybe you respect that. I can only go by what you post.
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First off, not all laws are Constitutional. We are about to see if DC's gun laws are Constitutional. Secondarily, we all break some laws even if we do so inadvertently (have you ever put a tire on a yellow line?).
In this country we have two types of law. The letter of the law and the spirit of the law. I respect Officers who follow the spirit and not those who use the letter of the law to take people down.
So you will have to clarify what you mean by not doing their jobs.
Playing catch up - too many threads. Jim is post-surgery -The DC Madam is dead. Political pandemonium.
On this thread, a few narcissists are using a very serious debate to prattle on about themselves, their resumes, unrelated experiences and self-absorption.
Too bad - because this case illustrates precisely what happens when gullible, fragile people support evil in the name of Christianity....and how naive anti-Government skeptics rally to the side of *religious freedom* excusing the criminals.
” a fishing expedition.
quote; “Well, if so, its because the pond is overstocked with inbred fish who are sick.
Its because there are Legal Arms of the State of Texas with regulation fishing poles, and they have been given a license to fish, at that pond. And their boat was registered too.”unquote
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Very good!
Those who cry foul because the children are ‘in custody’ of the state of Texas are without merit, as the State has the authority to take custody of crack children, born to crack addicted mothers, and these flds children are born to “spiritual crack” addicted parents.
My own daughter-in-law just had a preemie born crack baby, as a foster child for some weeks, while the state worked with the mother, who went through a drug rehab program. She got the baby back, but the state is just hopeful, as these mothers go back to the same-o as soon as they are alone and free again -unless there is a dramatic miracle of deliverance in their lives, which does happen.
Flds will always go back to their addiction unless they are dramatically delivered from the “spiritual crack” of flds doctrine.
“Flds will always go back to their addiction unless they are dramatically delivered from the spiritual crack of flds doctrine.”
You make an excellent point. One that really hasn’t even been addressed.
How do we stop that?
How do we move them into the 21st Century?
“What possible motivation, “
1)Legitimate concern.
2)It’s their job.
3)It’s the law.
NOW. That’s not really what we are talking about. The motivation of the CPS or LE.
It’s the motivation of those who attack the CPS and LE for doing their job.
We are all skeptical of the government, LE, CPS, in different ways, and for different reasons.
If the ‘official’ action involves any religion, we are not only skeptical, but downright defensive.
The more devoted one is, to something, the more defensive one is about it.
The ‘problem’ comes from being so defensive, one doesn’t see the facts. This isn’t about religion, it’s about illegal activities happening in a cult. The cult of Warren Jeffs.
The fact that he was born into FLDS, and declared himself PROPHET the day Fat Daddy Rulon died, doesn’t mean that every FLDS member is a criminal, and guilty of heinous crimes.
FLDS. Just a label. What difference does it make whether it’s FLDS or THE CHURCH OF FLAT EARTHERS?
Corruption has dominated the FLDS, and it won’t be stopped from the inside.
Take out the corruption, the illegal activities, and the FLDS will either continue on it’s own, or fail.
Joyce Meyer doesn’t rape children, nor make them work on assembly lines, nor trade them like bubble gum cards.
YET, NOBODY COMPLAINED WHEN the government ‘went after’ her.
And she’s not one of those fake ‘healers’ like Benny Hinn.
“I really don’t like seeing anyones Rights violated, even if it is for the children. “
And what if the one’s right’s violated, are the children?
****If the official action involves any religion, we are not only skeptical, but downright defensive.
The more devoted one is, to something, the more defensive one is about it.*****
You have *nailed it* and thank you for those responses to my rhetorical question;)
“I respect Officers who follow the spirit and not those who use the letter of the law to take people down.”
Do you think the Texas LE and CPS went into this because of the spirit of the law?
Or that on some whim, they decided to go on personal vendettas and root out FLDS from Texas?
The government shouldn't violate anyones rights, not even children's.
No, they clearly went in based on a hoax.
Or that on some whim, they decided to go on personal vendettas and root out FLDS from Texas?
The powers that be are certainly going after the FLDS with a vendetta. That is one reason why they changed the laws after the FLDS entered Texas.
“The government shouldn’t violate anyones rights, not even children’s.”
and...what does that have to do with this case?
“No, they clearly went in based on a hoax.”
So, you think that is the only complaint they had?
“The powers that be are certainly going after the drug-cartel with a vendetta. That is one reason why they changed the laws after the drug-cartel entered (pick a state).”
Everything. Until the State proves their case, thats what this is all about.
I agree.
“Everything.”
That’s pretty inclusive. Must be a lot of violations of the law. What exactly has the CPS done against the law?
That’s up to the Police, and the Welfare Division. CPS doesn’t have to pursue charges , they are only there to ensure the children are protected from a ‘dangerous environment’.
And they had EVERYTHING in the world, to back up that concern. Four years of visits, investigations, and charges against the FLDS for violating child labor laws.
So, you agree that they ‘should’ change the laws to deal with drug cartels, because they haven’t, and that is why you object to what is going on at FLDS? Because they did change the laws to deal with it?
Nothing. That is my point, they are using the 'Law' to violate the children's rights
Until the State proves their case, thats what this is all about.
Thats up to the Police, and the Welfare Division. CPS doesnt have to pursue charges , they are only there to ensure the children are protected from a dangerous environment.
You are absolutely correct. CPS doesn't have to do anything. They can simply take the children away and there is nothing that anyone can do. The only difference between this and Nazi Germany is? The State doesn't gas the Children?
And they had EVERYTHING in the world, to back up that concern. Four years of visits, investigations, and charges against the FLDS for violating child labor laws.
Violating child labor laws? So that is why they tore nursing babies from mothers breasts?
My dad broke child labor laws and gave me a job when I was fourteen. I worked hard and made enough money to buy a motorcycle (much to my mothers displeasure). So tell me, should I have been removed from my home and been put in foster care?
What part of the concept of Freedom from government interference and personal responsibility eludes you?
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