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Mr. Obama and Rev. Wright
New York Times ^ | April 20 ,2008 | Staff

Posted on 05/01/2008 12:40:15 AM PDT by freerepublic_or_die

It took more time than it should have, but on Tuesday Barack Obama firmly rejected the racism and paranoia of his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., and he made it clear that the preacher does not represent him, his politics or his campaign.

Senator Obama has had to struggle to explain this relationship ever since a video surfaced of Mr. Wright damning the United States from his pulpit. Last month, Mr. Obama delivered a speech in which he said he disapproved of Mr. Wright’s racially charged comments but said that the pastor still played an important role in his spiritual life.

It was a distinction we were not sure would sit well with many voters. But what mattered more was the speech’s powerful commentary on the state of race relations in this country. We hoped it would open the door to a serious, healthy and much-needed discussion on race.

Mr. Wright has not let that happen. In the last few days, in a series of shocking appearances, he embraced the Rev. Louis Farrakhan’s anti-Semitism. He said the government manufactured the AIDS virus to kill blacks. He suggested that America was guilty of “terrorism” and so had brought the 9/11 attacks on itself.

This could not be handled by a speech about the complexities of modern life. It required a powerful, unambiguous denunciation — and Mr. Obama gave it. He said his former pastor’s “rants” were “appalling.” “They offend me,” he said. “They rightly offend all Americans. And they should be denounced. And that’s what I’m doing very clearly and unequivocally here today.”

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Senator John McCain has continued to embrace a prominent white supporter, Pastor John Hagee, whose bigotry matches that of Mr. Wright.
Mr. McCain has not tried hard enough to stop a race-baiting commercial — complete with video of Mr. Wright — that is being run against Mr. Obama in North Carolina.
If Mr. Obama is the Democratic presidential nominee, we fear that there will be many more such commercials. And Mr. Obama will have to repudiate Mr. Wright’s outbursts many more times.

Paging Rod Serling;Where are you When We Need You the Most??

To read this editorial is to stare unmitigated, brazen hypocrisy, duplicity in the face, to experience incredulity at its most depraved delusional state, to peer into the pathologically grotesque, convoluted mind that is the dementia called left-wing, liberal ,moon-bat disease, one whose manifestations are not unlike the mad-cow disease ravaged brains you'd find inside the skulls of the sociopaths on the New York Times Editorial Board.

1 posted on 05/01/2008 12:40:15 AM PDT by freerepublic_or_die
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Welcome to the Twilight Zone;aka the New York Times

2 posted on 05/01/2008 12:49:11 AM PDT by freerepublic_or_die (Words to live/die by: (Nathan Hale) I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country.)
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To: freerepublic_or_die

Now Obumma's "outraged"?

Wriiiiiiiiiight.

3 posted on 05/01/2008 12:52:20 AM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent......)
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To: freerepublic_or_die
This could not be handled by a speech about the complexities of modern life. It required a powerful, unambiguous denunciation — and Mr. Obama gave it. He said his former pastor’s “rants” were “appalling.” “They offend me,” he said. “They rightly offend all Americans. And they should be denounced. And that’s what I’m doing very clearly and unequivocally here today.”

Let me guess - - the dying New York Times believes that "Mr. Obama" had no idea about any of his pastor's (20 years, did the wedding, baptized the kids, "is like an uncle", "councils me", etc., etc.) radical views and was shocked, shocked!, to learn of them?

I have to wonder if the NY Times' (diminishing) regular readership even bothers feeling insulted by the NY Times anymore? I thought the New York Times hit bottom long ago, but here you go - - a new low! I really wish the New York Times would hurry up and die already... Oops!:

THE WORST OF TIMES (1st ever mass layoff of Journalists at NY Times)

"THE New York Times' news room is bracing for a bloodbath in the next 10 days."

4 posted on 05/01/2008 1:06:14 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: freerepublic_or_die; MurryMom

Ha ha, the band of traitors, the blowhards of the left, have to hector us once again. We don’t need a “dialogue on race” - we simply need all the nutty racists of the left to STFU so that normal people can get on with living their decent, non-racist, sensible lives. Hey, Pinch, concentrate on all those NY Times journalists you will be firing in the next 10 days and see if you can save your fishwrap paper from extinction.

Listening to the bombastic fools of the NY Times is like listening to the resident site pest MurryMom...... both are invincibly ignorant and stunningly vicious.


5 posted on 05/01/2008 1:28:58 AM PDT by Enchante (Obama: My 1930s Foreign Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Social Policy!)
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To: freerepublic_or_die

I have heard liberals say that Evangelical Christian pastors who are pro-Republican (like Hagee, or Pat Robertson, or Jerry Falwell) are just as bad as Wright.

That is a false comparison. Those Republican Christian ministers never asked God to damn America, like Wright did. They said God was damning parts of America where sin was pervasive (like New Orleans because of homosexuality), or that God allowed 9/11 to occur because America is sinful. They are trying to get America to reform and give up its sinful ways so it can triumph in the War on Terrorism and remain the world leader it is destined to be, not destroy America like Wright, and probably Obama, are praying for.


6 posted on 05/01/2008 1:41:55 AM PDT by FFranco
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Absolutely. To Damn America collectively for the sins of slavery is not only specious but wrong, wrong, wrong, Pastor "Wrong" is what he should now be addressed as.

It's wrong for one very basic reason. The ancestors of present day Americans that comprise an overwhelming majority of the population today were nowhere near the South, plantations in the years up to the 1860's. They were all far away, very far away in in both distance and time/many decades residing in the countries they had emigrated from but not for many decades to come.

7 posted on 05/01/2008 1:56:58 AM PDT by freerepublic_or_die (Words to live/die by: (Nathan Hale) I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country.)
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OK, who will go find previous NYT editorials defending Wright, criticising those who condemned Wright and defending Obama for sticking by Wright who was being unfairly attacked.


8 posted on 05/01/2008 1:59:41 AM PDT by midway
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To: freerepublic_or_die
Looks like nObama’s got a Reverend in the woodpile!
9 posted on 05/01/2008 2:35:37 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: freerepublic_or_die
Twenty years in the church. Baptized his child. Hussein had no idea what this guy was preaching... could've happened to anyone...
10 posted on 05/01/2008 2:56:06 AM PDT by allmost
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To: freerepublic_or_die
I saw a clip of Barry and Michelle on TV yesterday, the angry black woman was ready to spit nails! I cannot think of anything but, “They got caught” when I look at their faces. Two racists, elitist, bigots who want to run this country...amazing that they got this far. BO and MO need to go back to their Leftie enclave in Chicago and leave the USA alone. We don't need their kind of “change”.
11 posted on 05/01/2008 3:03:40 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: freerepublic_or_die
Yeah, I kept listening for the music, too. What dissembling bilge. The NYSlimes are perfectly willing to accept Obama’s second effort explanation for a relationship that lasted, not 20 minutes, but TWENTY YEARS! A bunch of strung together sound bites could never adequately explain such a relationship. What dolts.
12 posted on 05/01/2008 3:13:32 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: Salamander
It took more time than it should have, but on Tuesday Barack Obama firmly rejected the racism and paranoia of his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., and he made it clear that the preacher does not represent him, his politics or his campaign.

This reminds me of nothing so much as my brother bending my arm behind my back and making me say I like lima beans.

13 posted on 05/01/2008 3:24:53 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: singfreedom

I’m surprised the Times even admits Wright was racist and paranoid. I would have thought they would still be on his side. Gee, maybe their editorial board is picking up some common sense.

Nah....


14 posted on 05/01/2008 3:36:36 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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I think they, like Mr. Osama Obama, have just realized how unpopular Rev. Wright's views are with the vast majority of Americans. In order to salvage any shred of Obama’s credibility, they MUST play up his denunciation of Rev. Wright. They're idiots,though, if they believe a few measly speeches are going to ameliorate the damage the Wright infamy has done.
15 posted on 05/01/2008 3:47:14 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: ishabibble
Uh oh, I bet she's not so “proud of America” now. Poor disillusioned girl. /ultimate sarcasm
16 posted on 05/01/2008 3:50:04 AM PDT by singfreedom
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Michelle is the true Ayers acolyte in that family. She also has a way of emasculating her husband that made me very nervous even before the Rev. Wright tapes came out. It’s as if she really doesn’t like him very much, but wants the power of the White House. Just look at this:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/09/06/tales-from-the-obamas-bedroom/


17 posted on 05/01/2008 3:59:28 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: FFranco
from the article:prominent African-Americans are regularly called upon to explain or repudiate what other black Americans have to say, while white public figures are rarely, if ever, handed that burden.

Uhhhh, helloooo! That "prominent African American" chose to associate himself with this "other" black American and his colleagues for twenty years. I want to scream when they get away with writing this kind of tripe.

18 posted on 05/01/2008 3:59:46 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: freerepublic_or_die
Mr. Obama and Rev. Wright It took more time than it should have, but on Tuesday Barack Obama firmly rejected the racism and paranoia of his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., and he made it clear that the preacher does not represent him, his politics or his campaign.

Let's get that 20-year-delay in rejecting Rev. Wright's rantings out of the way right off, shall we?

Senator Obama has had to struggle to explain this relationship ever since a video surfaced of Mr. Wright damning the United States from his pulpit. Last month, Mr. Obama delivered a speech in which he said he disapproved of Mr. Wright’s racially charged comments but said that the pastor still played an important role in his spiritual life.

It's always the video that get's them. If it had not been for video, which could be looped and played over and over again, Obama would have skated on this, as he has on so much else. The problem is not the rantings of Rev. Wright. The problem is that it is on video.

It was a distinction we were not sure would sit well with many voters. (Ya think!) But what mattered more was the speech’s powerful commentary on the state of race relations in this country. We hoped it would open the door to a serious, healthy and much-needed discussion on race.

Seriously, does anybody remember anything from that speech, except when Obama threw his Grandma under the bus and the three days of hyperventilation that followed about how wonderful it was? Obama was trying to put it behind him. A serious, healthy and much-needed discussion on race is the last thing he had in mind. In the subsequent month, how much serious, healthy and much-needed discussion on race came out of the Obama camp? Zilch! That's how much.

Mr. Wright has not let that happen. In the last few days, in a series of shocking appearances, he embraced the Rev. Louis Farrakhan’s anti-Semitism. He said the government manufactured the AIDS virus to kill blacks. He suggested that America was guilty of “terrorism” and so had brought the 9/11 attacks on itself.

Note that all of these outrageous statements were on the original videos. The only thing Wright did was supply fresh video and rip the scab off the wound. He did not allow himself to be ignored. He was not going to let the worthies at the New York Times continue their serious, healthy and much needed ignoring of the problem.

This could not be handled by a speech about the complexities of modern life. It required a powerful, unambiguous denunciation — and Mr. Obama gave it. He said his former pastor’s “rants” were “appalling.” “They offend me,” he said. “They rightly offend all Americans. And they should be denounced. And that’s what I’m doing very clearly and unequivocally here today.”

Here the Times praises Obama for kicking it up a notch, as if this was not a no-brainer. The question of "If he did not believe it then, why should believe it now?" simply never occurs to them. Or maybe it does, but they just do not care about the answer.

He said he was angry that Mr. Wright suggested that he was insincere when he previously criticized the pastor’s views. “If Reverend Wright thinks that that’s political posturing, as he put it, then he doesn’t know me very well,” Mr. Obama said. “And based on his remarks yesterday, well, I may not know him as well as I thought either.”

Ooooooh. Barry's a tough guy, now!

In March, Mr. Obama tried to walk a fine line — seeking to dispel any sense of a political relationship with Mr. Wright, while trying to preserve a personal tie that was clearly important to his religious development. On Tuesday, he abandoned that.

In March, Mr. Obama tried to do damage control, and did not do enough. He tried to have his cake and eat it, too. This did not work out so well.

“I want to use this press conference to make people absolutely clear that obviously whatever relationship I had with Reverend Wright has changed as a consequence of this,” he said, adding that if Mr. Wright speaks out again, he will not represent the Obama campaign.

But nothing changed over the weekend. The only thing that did change was that Rev. Wright made it clear that he was not misquoted and that he would not be ignored. Everything else is as it was. So why is Rev. Wright to be condemned on Wednesday, but not on last Saturday?

It was the most forthright repudiation of an out-of-control supporter that we can remember. We would like to say that it will finally take the racial charge out of this campaign. We’re not that naïve.

It is the out-of-control thing that is offensive, of course. The racial bomb-throwing and conspiracy theories, well, that is just what these people do, don'tcha know...

It is an injustice, a legacy of the racist threads of this nation’s history, but prominent African-Americans are regularly called upon to explain or repudiate what other black Americans have to say, while white public figures are rarely, if ever, handed that burden.

Oh, please. People are still pestering President Bush about appearing at Bob Jones University in 1999.

Senator John McCain has continued to embrace a prominent white supporter, Pastor John Hagee, whose bigotry matches that of Mr. Wright. Mr. McCain has not tried hard enough to stop a race-baiting commercial — complete with video of Mr. Wright — that is being run against Mr. Obama in North Carolina.

And to prove that their point is BS, they throw John Hagee at McCain. These people are really shameless. There is no comparison between an unsought endorsement of McCain by Hagee and Obama sitting in the pews listening to Rev. Wright for 20 years and then expounding on the importance of the relationship. It is like a gnat next to a supertanker.

If Mr. Obama is the Democratic presidential nominee, we fear that there will be many more such commercials. And Mr. Obama will have to repudiate Mr. Wright’s outbursts many more times.

Yeah, that is what happens when you nominate racist morons. Life's a bitch.

This country needs a healthy and open discussion of race. Mr. Obama’s repudiation of Mr. Wright is part of that. His opponents also have a responsibility — to repudiate the race-baiting and make sure it stops.

The country may need it, but the New York Times just wants those minorities to sit down and shut up until after November. They really, really want that.

19 posted on 05/01/2008 4:01:01 AM PDT by gridlock (Proud McCain Supporter since February 8, 2008.)
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To: ishabibble
"Dammit you slave-owners! I am not A Mad Black Woman!" "


20 posted on 05/01/2008 4:02:46 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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