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To: ejonesie22

You are making assumptions without evidence, and making disparaging remarks at imaginary opponents.

And don’t tell me what to do or not do.

You cast the first insult with your ‘brain rot’ heckling. And you got what you asked for.

Tha FairTax has already been debated among economic policy makers in committees in Congress and it has won all debates. The opposition has folded on trying to punch holes in its design. What they have opted for is a war of propaganda and they would find in you a suitable ‘UI’.

The FairTax has made momumental progress in the past five years. It takes decades to transform a tax system. The Income tax took from 1861 to 1913, 52 years.

So if your objections are:

1. The FairTax hasn’t been subjected in a serious discussion?
Answer: False. The legislation has been seriously debated and scrutinized in Congressional offices, committees and subcommittees. It has passed all examinations and won all debates.

2. Slow progress in the form of legislation for 8 years?
Answer: False. Progress by any measure for a complete transformation of a national tax code is measured in decades. As I posted previously on this thread, state and national polls show a dramatic increase in support for the FairTax (up 39% in Michigan from the year before), grassroots support and members are up 140% in the last year and half, and the number of members of Congress that sponsor the legislation has increased from 54 to 75 in the last two years.

So far you are batting zero. There is only one legitimate criticism of the FairTax and you haven’t mentioned it. But the leaders in Congress of the FairTax legislation know this criticism and are actively working to fix it.


104 posted on 05/02/2008 10:53:53 AM PDT by Hostage
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To: Hostage
Uh huh.,actually it started with your boy calling a good American Conservative a socialist and being dead wrong about his support here on FR, but let's not get caught up in details shall we...

As far as the rest like it winning all debates, I don't think so, though it has made a good initial showing in a few committees, but still, 76 some odd supporters after almost a decade?

And there are more than just one objection to the “Fair Tax”, such as what it will do to the sale of new goods, the housing market, how will the new larger tax amounts will be handled by the credit community since it is not asset that can be held as collateral.

And those are just for starters...

There are also serious concerns about evasion and the evolution of a tax free black market, concerns about the creeping up of the rate, the theoretical concept of a 22% embedded tax and will the cost of good really go down, the creation of an entirely new bureaucracy to manage the prebate and the delivery of checks/funds to every household on a monthly/quarterly/whatever basis.

There is the societal issue I, as well as others, have raised about the inequity of the tax, the fact that those who desire to live a good life such as many enjoy now will be the ones who will have the burden of supporting the nation while cheap bastards who live like paupers despite making the same income pay nothing. Yes, it's a choice, but a bad one, one that will doom the FT among voters since they will be given the choice, live a lower life style or be stuck with the check by the cheap SOB down the street who enjoys the same military protection, highways and other benefits as you do for nothing. Yeah that will go over like a lead balloon in our consumer driven economy.

I have seen these objections addressed with circular arguments and theoretical rhetoric time and time again, but no one has the guts to say that they don't know exactly how some of these things will work out in reality, just that it is "hoped' that this that and the other will happen and it "should" all work out if all businesses and institutions will do the right thing. Sorry, I live in the real world.

The “Fair Tax” has yet to be taken seriously enough to see real opposition. It will enjoy a good ride for sometime since the tide against the current system grows daily, but in the end it will be at best a catalyst for discussions on real ideas about finally reforming the tax system in favor of something the is really fair to all citizens, and for that I am thankful to it and its supporters.

105 posted on 05/02/2008 11:47:59 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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