Posted on 04/30/2008 7:35:05 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
This story really gets to me. How incredibly sad. I cannot fathom how a person could be so cruel. What a horrible, horrible thing to do.
It’s not cruelity. It’s evil. I can not read it all. I think that when normal people are confronted with evil, they cannot look at it straight on. In a way, it is similar to how the Bible describes how we cannot look straight on at the goodness of God. It’s too blinding. Evil is the same in a way but instead of being blinding, it’s repulsive. Our minds cannot not accept it or comprehend it. Those who say there is no evil or good in the world, that everything is relative, are dead wrong. There are people who can do tremendous acts of bravery out of love and goodness just as there are those who commit horrendous evil due to hate or indifference. There is nothing relative about any of it.
I don’t get how he could include the four children upstairs and the wife knew nothing about anything...
Yet, as a nation we sat idly by as sadistic madmen did essentially the same thing to hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people. Then we allow a large, loud segment of our population to bemoan the fact that we have deposed, or are in the process of deposing the very same madmen.
One is heartbreaking, One million is a statistic.
Water and Top Ramen - nothing else. He'd miss his jaunts to the beaches and laying in the sun = he deserves no human contact of any kind - or daylight - for the rest of his evil life.Good God - if he had died at any time - that dungeon would have become a tomb...it should now become his - the ultimate "House Arrest"
I know what you mean. Where did she think these babies kept coming from?
Three of them - Kerstin, Stefan, and Felix - were kept locked in the dungeon with their mother.
The others - Monika, 14, Alexander, 12, and 16-year-old Lisa - were taken from the cellar by Josef and allowed to lead apparently normal lives upstairs with him and his wife.
So do they have the death penalty in that country?
well said. Evil too perverse to speak of or look at straight on. Yet God’s grace and mercy will abound for these precious souls whose lives have been forever impacted by the horrors they have been endured.
The depravity of the human soul is mind-boggling.
You really think the three upstairs led a “normal life”? Surely he raped all the girls throughout their lives as well. Surely this will be revealed soon enough.
And his wife? He picked her because of her mental, emotional psychological limitations indeed. She is as much a victim as the others. No one in their right mind would not have suspected from day one about the horrors in the basement. The wife should not be legally liable, but she was likely as much his prisoner in other ways as the children and grandchildren were.
Are you 'series'? It's Europe fer crying out loud!
I think his cover story was that their mother lived with some crazy religious cult and occasionally showed up and left a baby.
twins and other siblings who spend great amounts of time together have been known to do this, or at least a variation of it.
They can invent their own communication language.
I remember when Ronald Reagan passed away, a political cartoonist drew a cartoon of Reagan in Heaven saying he can now remember Nancy, his children, everything. It made me think. If we do get there, will we look like ourselves here? Or will we look like what God wants us to be? When the captives get to heaven - I cannot comprehend a compassionate God not allowing them into Heaven - will they be able to communicate without growls?
Believe it or not, the most this man can get in that insane nation is 20 years.
He is 73, so he’ll probably die in prison.
I was thinking the same thing, but he also took one of the boys upstairs. And I’m trying to imagine the set-up because it’s difficult for me to understand how Elizabeth could’ve been imprisoned at 19. She was not little then, probably not even physically. It’s possible that he’d been raping her even before he imprisoned her, and I know that a hurt mind can make one very vulnerable, but I think a lot of women would concur that if someone, even our pervert fathers, were to attempt to take us to a dungeon, one of us would be terribly hurt (maybe even to death) in the fight that ensued.
God help her and her children.
Something ain't right here. Where did the wife think the creep got the kids from?
She had siblings. She was 11 when he started to rape her. This article is much more interesting/descriptive.
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