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To: Peter Libra

That’s right, the early immigrants didn’t have the welfare system, but they had pride and determination. They had too much pride to try to slip into the U.S. without “paying the fare” and they had the determination to make their family’s life better, while making America better in the process. The legal immigrants of yesterday and today are the ones who have made America great, while the illegal immigrants are far, far different: they have held America up at gunpoint and dwindled her resources by stealing the breadbasket from her generous arms.


20 posted on 04/29/2008 9:40:19 PM PDT by tcw_laj4ALL (My car is allergic to corn.)
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To: tcw_laj4ALL

Yah... them illegals is just takin’ jobs from all those Americans standing in line for jobs in landscaping. And fast food. American high school kids are just destitute without those fast-food jobs like when I was a kid.

Don’t get me wrong. We should have a defensible border. But we should also have a more sensible foreign worker system so that enough can come in legally to fill the jobs that are available. Right now we don’t do either. We have a porous border and a job surplus.

If we create a better controlled way for enough workers to come in legally to work, it would make the border control problem much easier to manage.


21 posted on 04/29/2008 9:54:18 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: tcw_laj4ALL

Actually, the “legal” immigrants of before were so mainly because there wasn’t a limit on how many could come over, merely on who could come over.

Processing of immigrants at Ellis Island didn’t start until 1892. Before that, immigrants pretty much just got off the ship at the docks and walked ashore.


22 posted on 04/29/2008 10:02:03 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: tcw_laj4ALL
.....the early immigrants didn't have the welfare system

Bingo!

I just got an e-mail from a buddy of mine whose mother worked for 40 years from 42-82 retired and now gets $791. from social security.

In the same e-mail he pointed out how immigrants over 64 can get as much as R2,400 per months due to their "circumstances".

How can we support a govt. that has created a system like this?

30 posted on 04/30/2008 6:15:05 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: tcw_laj4ALL
That’s right, the early immigrants didn’t have the welfare system, but they had pride and determination

It is also true, though seldom told, that many immigrants, up to 50% in some years, when they couldn't make it for whatever reason, didn't lurk around "in the shadows" begging and stealing but rather went back to their homeland.

53 posted on 04/30/2008 7:54:39 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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