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Jerusalem's Wailing Wall at risk of collapse
Telegraph ^ | April 28, 2008 | Carolynne Wheeler

Posted on 04/28/2008 1:56:22 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 04/28/2008 1:56:23 PM PDT by NYer
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Interesting.


2 posted on 04/28/2008 1:56:54 PM PDT by NYer (Jesus whom I know as my Redeemer cannot be less than God. - St. Athanasius)
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I’m sure I’ll get flamed for this, and I have nothing but respect for Judaism, but it would be a good thing if all of the man-made objects that people worship were destroyed. There would be a lot less suffering in the world.


3 posted on 04/28/2008 2:00:18 PM PDT by Ron Jeremy
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...but it would be a good thing if all of the man-made objects that people worship were destroyed.

People don't worship the wall. They worship at the wall.

Christians also do not worship churches.

4 posted on 04/28/2008 2:09:38 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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I visited there 30 years ago. Our guide told us that sometimes the rabbis in charge would get into protracted arguments about whether the weeds and bushes growing out of the cracks in the wall should be removed or not. I wonder how much arguing in going on about actually adding reinforcement?


5 posted on 04/28/2008 2:10:11 PM PDT by Dr. Zzyzx
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“Traditionally, Jews are forbidden to set foot on the ancient site of what they believe to be the Temple Mount,”

The tradition of. . . Allah?


6 posted on 04/28/2008 2:15:53 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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People don't worship the wall. They worship at the wall. Christians also do not worship churches.

In theory, that is true. Yet, the way people react when these places get destroyed, or occupied by another country, suggests to me that at some level the walls themselves at some level become and object of worship.

7 posted on 04/28/2008 2:20:24 PM PDT by Ron Jeremy
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My thought exactly...it would be one less man-made symbol for them to fight about in the Middle East.


8 posted on 04/28/2008 2:23:31 PM PDT by HappyinAZ
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Yeah, but this is the Middle East we're talking about here. Destroy the buildings and they'll fight over wall remnants. Take away the walls, and they'll fight over dirt.

Ultimately it's the people, not the stuff.

9 posted on 04/28/2008 2:48:28 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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The Kotel is all that is left of the Second Temple. Legend has it God intended to preserve part of the Wall forever even amidst the Roman destruction of the rest of it. Its survived 2,000 years. If it can be repaired, it can last another 2,000 years.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

10 posted on 04/28/2008 3:11:47 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Jews are forbidden to step foot on the Mount for the reason that its not certain where the Holy of Holies precinct that contained the Divine Presence is located. In Jewish law, only the High Priest could enter it and only once a year.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

11 posted on 04/28/2008 3:14:00 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Oh, thank you, goldstategop. That makes sense.


12 posted on 04/28/2008 3:15:46 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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So right. As Scripture says:

John 4:21-24 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”


13 posted on 04/28/2008 7:27:21 PM PDT by tabsternager
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Ping!


14 posted on 04/29/2008 4:34:51 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA ("Typical 'bitter' 'White Male" whose vote the Dems now desperately want so bad - HA!)
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15 posted on 04/29/2008 5:13:33 AM PDT by SJackson (I'm a lawyer, Barack is a lawyer, all our friends are lawyers, Michelle O.)
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but it would be a good thing if all of the man-made objects that people worship were destroyed. There would be a lot less suffering in the world.

Your contention,conclusion that there would be a lot less suffering in the world if all the man-made objects of worship would be destroyed is egregiously specious, fallacious.

The suffering you contend is the result of religion is not a result of, via, the intrinsic objects themselves. Destroying any objects of worship (would) have no bearing on (the) suffering.

16 posted on 04/29/2008 5:28:44 AM PDT by freerepublic_or_die (Words to live/die by: (Nathan Hale) I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country.)
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You know that the real Ron Jeremy is Jewish don’t you?

He also holds a degree in early child development, used to be a teacher in New York State many moons ago (I think, or he might have just held the degree).

Just for (as they say) sh*ts and giggles, are you the real one, or is that just a creative screen name?

Shalom.


17 posted on 04/29/2008 5:46:05 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American history.)
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I’m sure I’ll get flamed for this, and I have nothing but respect for Judaism, but it would be a good thing if all of the man-made objects that people worship were destroyed. There would be a lot less suffering in the world.

If you got flamed, it would be well-deserved.

First of all, as has already been pointed out, Jews don't worship the wall, they worship at the wall.

Secondly, I'm getting pretty tired of the moral-equivalence BS. Jews and Christians in the Holy City are getting along just fine, thank you--so why do some people think that blowing up our holy sites will somehow make the Muslims suddenly play nice? Do you really want to be numbered among those who have raised the age-old cry, "Blame the Jews!"

18 posted on 04/29/2008 6:44:53 AM PDT by Buggman (HebrewRoot.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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Matthew 24:1-2

Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple. But he answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another, that will not be thrown down.”


19 posted on 04/29/2008 6:47:55 AM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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20 posted on 04/29/2008 6:48:07 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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