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To: Ken H
. . . the point is, Congress was empowered to promote science.

The point is, Congress is empowered by the Constitution to issue copyrights and patents. The issue is the protection of property rights, that being how Congress is to “promote” science and the useful arts. Apparently, your hubris won’t permit you to admit that your contrary assertion is contextually absurd. If your misbegotten logic were pursued, we would have to conclude that Congress is forbidden to grant copyrights for the materials of religious authors or associations because that would “promote” religion.

The other poster claimed "science is a religion" - I.8.8. is my evidence against that assertion.

Your “evidence” is a joke. The “other poster” made a logical assertion. Let him defend the logic of his assertion, and you criticize the logic of his assertion. Or, there are establishment cases you can cite. Both avenues are arguable, but to cite a constitutional clause protecting the right to private property by enumerating a Congressional power to grant patents and copyrights is so bizarrely irrational that it misses the mark by an intergalactic distance. It would be useless, I suppose, to refer to Jefferson’s observation that we are all imperiled when we try to make of the Constitution a blank slate. Your frenzied sense of invincible virtue would not permit you to see the truth of his point, or to admit to it if you did.

Your postings have given me doubts about your truthfulness.

”Treason!” cried the king. “Blasphemy!” shouted the mufti. “Unprincipled Liar!” snarled the Master of the Universe. Does your superiorist attitude go so far that you assume your word is undoubted, and that any dissent can only be explained out of wickedness? Do you think your bullying can impose silence by the sheer force of your personality? Bring paper, pencil, and a timer, if you wish to administer a test. See who answers the bell and acknowledges your authority to give it.

463 posted on 05/03/2008 11:57:30 AM PDT by YHAOS
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To: YHAOS
The point is, Congress is empowered by the Constitution to issue copyrights and patents.

In a debate over whether or not the Founders would agree that "science is a religion", the means by which Congress may promote science are irrelevant. The fact that Congress has such power with regard to science - whereas it does not have such power with regard to religion - is the point. Maybe this will help you:

Congress shall have Power... To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

Simple question: Do you think the Founders would agree with the other poster's claim that "science is a religion"?

The "other poster" made a logical assertion. Let him defend the logic of his assertion, and you criticize the logic of his assertion.

He never replied, so perhaps he saw his mistake. You, OTOH, can't seem to stop shooting yourself in the foot.

Do you think your bullying can impose silence by the sheer force of your personality?

Your question makes no sense. I've been trying to get you speak up on a simple question, but it is you who insist on silence.

Bring paper, pencil, and a timer, if you wish to administer a test. See who answers the bell and acknowledges your authority to give it.

Son, you've been taking the character test since your #366. You received your grade in my last post.

464 posted on 05/03/2008 6:47:10 PM PDT by Ken H
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