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To: Dog Gone
I don’t know how esteemed Richard Weikart is a historian. It seems as if he’s made the focus of his short academic career writing about “Darwinism” and the Nazis.

I guess you're a history buff. Who are all the "eminent" historians with respect to the origins of the Nazis' desire to create a super race and what are all the papers, books etc. they've written about it? And what makes those particular ones eminent?

It seems as if he’s made the focus of his short academic career writing about “Darwinism” and the Nazis.

What's that got to do with anything? You keep making these completely irrelevant points. Have any "eminent" historians refuted what he wrote? You're grasping at straws. "His career is short, so his research doesn't count."

Let’s say some of the freaks in the Nazi Party were intent on creating the Super Race. They wouldn’t look to Darwin. They would look to Gregor Mendel, the father of genetics. And perhaps they did.

Now you're just creating your own theory unsupported by any facts whatsoever. The very thing you accused Stein, and apparently also Weikart and all the other historians who recommend his book, of doing, without having read his book of course. Is there any evidence of any advocates of eugenics of the first half of the 20th century mentioning Mendel? In fact by your "logic" you're now smearing genetics. I guess smearing genetics is okay, it's just smearing Darwin that's verboten.

The Nazis were not trying to craft the Super Race through random mutations and natural selection of the effects of that.

Another irrelevant point. They believed certain races already were superior. So they had to get rid of inferior races. You don't need to use random mutations to get rid of inferior races. You just get rid of them. Eugenics is artificial selection.

461 posted on 05/02/2008 9:10:35 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: lasereye

You’re not worth arguing with, simply because you can’t do it honestly.

I was not attacking genetics. I was making the point that Nazis were not using Darwin’s theory to create a master race. Far from me grasping at straws, you and Stein are.

The Nazi philosophy regarding race was based on eugenics, which was essentially a philosophy drawing from the science of genetics and some conclusions drawn from Darwin’s studies regarding which adaptations provided an advantage to a species. You can no more blame Darwin for the Nazis than you can blame Mendel, or the chemists throughout history that allowed them to formulate Zyklon B.

I’m through with you and this thread. Declare victory over me and go have a parade.


462 posted on 05/03/2008 6:32:59 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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