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To: Ken H
Garbage.

Hogwash

Article I, Section 8, Clause 8, altogether deals with the right to intellectual property, and in no manner touches upon the establishment of religion. Its authority is confined strictly to patents and copyrights (ironically enough, including the copyrighting of religious materials). The continuing controversy over what constitutes an establishment of religion stems from the conflicting interpretations of portions of the First Amendment. The ultimate outcome of that controversy can have no influence on a constitutional clause enabling the issuance of patents and copyrights

You claim that you can’t possibly be arguing that Clause 8 grants to Congress virtually unlimited powers to promote science, yet you continue to refer back to the clause with the fascination of a mouse transfixed by a snake. Likewise you admit that the Feds have no power to fund or regulate education, yet you suggest that I am ducking the “challenge” of an issue you have already conceded. You switch arguments more frequently than the costume changes in a one-man show.

459 posted on 05/02/2008 1:25:40 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: YHAOS
Article I, Section 8, Clause 8, altogether deals with the right to intellectual property, and in no manner touches upon the establishment of religion. Its authority is confined strictly to patents and copyrights (ironically enough, including the copyrighting of religious materials). The continuing controversy over what constitutes an establishment of religion stems from the conflicting interpretations of portions of the First Amendment. The ultimate outcome of that controversy can have no influence on a constitutional clause enabling the issuance of patents and copyrights

That's correct. But the point is, Congress was empowered to promote science. Therefore, the other poster's claim that "science is a religion" was not shared by the Founders. Your attempt to read more into my words is an act of deceit, IMO.

You claim that you can't possibly be arguing that Clause 8 grants to Congress virtually unlimited powers to promote science, yet you continue to refer back to the clause with the fascination of a mouse transfixed by a snake.

The other poster claimed "science is a religion" - I.8.8. is my evidence against that assertion. I need to keep referring to it as part of my argument to counter your dishonesty.

Likewise you admit that the Feds have no power to fund or regulate education, yet you suggest that I am ducking the "challenge" of an issue you have already conceded.

Your postings have given me doubts about your truthfulness. I was hoping to see whether you held a principled view of I.8.3. IOW, it was a character test.

460 posted on 05/02/2008 4:37:03 PM PDT by Ken H
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