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To: Clemenza
1. Derbyshire grew up in a blue collar household.

That describes almost every social climber ever born.

Pretty much every other 20 something in NYC is a refugee from a blue collar or lower-middle white collar home in a small town - and they usually delight in putting down the town they came from, the religion they were raised in, the silly devotion to local sports in their hometown, the lack of culture in their hometown, etc.

2. What is wrong with "elitism." To be an elitist is to believe in high standards, and the fact that those with talent and intelligence shoulder the burden for all of us and are the ones who ultimately advance civilization.

There is a difference between maintaining a standard of excellence and a standard of detached cynicism - or, as you put it, between elitism and snobbery. Derbyshire is a snob.

The migration of populist retards to the Right has ruined the conservative movement, IMHO.

I definitely agree with that sentiment.

Here is the problem: mindless populism on the one hand is counterbalanced by obnoxious obscurantism on the other hand - i.e. the "palaeoconservative" faction.

And the two factions often mutually support each other in a noxious alliance - like the Ron Paul campaign.

Especially in the matter of religion: for the populist, religion is a purely emotional phenomenon - which is precisely the way the wry snob views it: namely as an emotional response which is sometimes useful among the lower sort but which he is thankfully free from.

There is a type of "conservative" who views faith and patriotism as useful items which can be manipulated for political ends. And then there is the populist "conservative" who views emotionalism as "faith" and ethnonationalism as "patriotism."

318 posted on 04/29/2008 12:45:28 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

>>Especially in the matter of religion: for the populist, religion is a purely emotional phenomenon<<

Who are these “populists” for which you claim “religion is a purely emotional phenomenon?” Is this a variation on Obama’s “they cling to guns and religion?”


334 posted on 04/29/2008 7:34:36 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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