[doug from upland]

Coast to Coast discussed this last night. Interesting info.

[Enterprise]

There was some theories on how they could get these guys into a vehicle since some of them could have put up stiff resistance. One theory was that a hooker could have been used to lure someone into a vehicle. I think that some of them could have been befriended in a bar and been given so much to drink that they accepted a ride. It is also possible that someone could be putting drugs in their drinks to make it easier to overcome any possible resistance.

On thing that was disturbing to say the least was that the FBI ruled out serial killings. The New York detectives produced some compelling information though.

[kbingham]

I hate to rain on everyone’s parade here, but those two retired detectives are chasing shadows.
In all but one case, they were ruled drunken drowning accidents. Young men do dumb things, esp when you add booze, night, and large bodies of water.

There are never any witnesses. They are all last seen leaving a party or leaving friends, drunk.

And, not surprisingly, there is no evidence of anything except that they drowned—they aren’t left dead on a roadside or strangled or anything like that. No, this is the perfect crime.
The perfect conspiracy executed over, and over with JFK, OJ, 911, and so on.

In one special case, the person drown without being drunk.
They’re using the one case of a young man who drowned sober to a legitimacy to their theory.

Anyway...chasing shadows. Over 10 years, 39 young men drowned, drunk in bodies of water, and one drowned sober.

All accidents. Even if the 1 kid were tortured and murdered, that doesn’t make all the rest of them murders.

That’s the most logical solution. Sorry to say it.